Researchers Have Achieved Sustained Long-Distance Quantum Teleportation

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I have a degree in biophysics and I've worked gigs in the field but not in a long time. I did do a paper on quantum teleportation back in my college days though so I'm pretty familiar with it.

First off, from what I can tell this is a practical breakthrough not a theoretical one. We've been plotting on this shyt for almost 30 years but just haven't figured out the technical side. Now it appears a technical breakthrough has been made.

But to be clear, unless something incredible and fundamental has changed, you CANNOT communicate any information faster than the speed of light. Strangely, this quantum entanglement breakthrough does not actually increase the speed at which information can travel. The reasons behind that are really complex and difficult to describe without taking a crash course in quantum behavior first, but measuring quantumly entangled particles can cause an instantaneous change occur absolutely any distance but that change doesn't give you the information in itself. To make a rough analogy its as if someone sent you an instantaneous message that was 100% gibberish, and simultaneously sent you the code for the message over fiber optics. You can see the first message immediately, but you don't know what it says until you get the code.

So this won't actually increase the speed of long-distance or interstellar messaging at all. What it will do, if some of the more radical ideas are realized, is allow advances in coding and in transferring information to the point where you might actually create unbreakable encrypted codes. The "message" sent by the entangled quantum particles would not be readable by any outside viewer (since to read it would immediately break entanglement), and the code sent by traditional means would be useless without the entangled particles, so the person who uses the code to "read" the entangled particles would have a 100% guarantee that no one in-between could have intercepted the message. There might be other advantages I'm unaware of but encryption is the one I always saw focused on.

Other aspects of quantum computing will potentially bring a new era of more complex computing with processing power far faster than currently available. Basically, rather than interacting with bits of information in a "1" or "0" state, they'll be able to compute with things still in their entangled quantum states where infinite superpositions of states between "1" and "0" can be held simultaneously. Far, far more information possible without increasing the # of particles involved.
Thanks for the input. Learned something new.:salute:




Also, one more quick question. So, are you saying that the instantaneous change from measuring the particles cannot be triggered periodically based on a predetermined code ? I get that you have many more options than the standard binary 1 or 0 because of those simultaneous states, but could you forgo all the individual data and use the fluctuation between the unchanged and the changed particle to send an old school message, that was not contingent on the condensed data itself, but rather on simply noting the change on one end of particle pairs?


Please forgive any ignorance on my part. Back in underGrad, I neglected taking the quantum electives in favor of an industrial-power-system course. I figured it would be decades before the quantum stuff would be practical:snoop:
 
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Other aspects of quantum computing will potentially bring a new era of more complex computing with processing power far faster than currently available. Basically, rather than interacting with bits of information in a "1" or "0" state, they'll be able to compute with things still in their entangled quantum states where infinite superpositions of states between "1" and "0" can be held simultaneously. Far, far more information possible without increasing the # of particles involved..

infinite superpositions?
 

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Nice but alot yall didn't read the article. They are not teleporting matter. This is going to make the internet and computers so much faster
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Imagine downloading a 20gb 4k video in less than 10 seconds :wow:

I wonder what implications this might have for cloud storage too.
 

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infinite superpositions?
What I mean is, in regular data any particular bit can only be in one of two states, "off" or "on", "0" or "1".

But in quantum data, that bit is in a superposition determined by probabilities. Since the probability is a wave function, it is no longer defined by a specific number of possible states, it's not in "discrete" states at all, there are literally infinite possibilities.

To simplify, imagine if you said, "Now the superposition has a 32.66869948377385% chance of being a '0'. if we perform this operation, now the superposition has a 36.34383834334343% chance of being a '0'." There's an infinite # of %'s that can define its superposition between '1' and '0', so the information that can be contained by its ambiguous state is now far more complex.

Thus its potential for holding information becomes far, far more complex. Of course, there are likely going to be practical limits to how much information you can actually contain and measure within any particular network of superpositions.
 

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Thanks for the input. Learned something new.:salute:


Also, one more quick question. So, are you saying that the instantaneous change from measuring the particles cannot be triggered periodically based on a predetermined code ? I get that you have many more options than the standard binary 1 or 0 because of those simultaneous states, but could you forgo all the individual data and use the fluctuation between the unchanged and the changed particle to send an old school message, that was not contingent on the condensed data itself, but rather on simply noting the change on one end of particle pairs?
No. Not just practically impossible, it's theoretically impossible. It would violate fundamental physical laws.
 

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What I mean is, in regular data any particular bit can only be in one of two states, "off" or "on", "0" or "1".

Not quite true. And data is not really the program (as such... really) and we are talking about running programs here.

Those states. 1 and 0, are abstractions. What they really are are HIGH and LOW states where low states could be for example 0.2v.

In classical electronic von-neumann arch stored bit values in RAM are non-discrete. We just abstract away from that, (employ auto-correction methods) and choose to view that possible range of electrical charge ranges (amplitudes) as 1's or 0's. That abstraction allows for the binary boolean logic than underpins classical circuitry which then covered by microcode and instruction set, machine code and so on all the way up. at each level we apply a further abstraction which removes implementation details and adds expressive power.

Your phone RAM does not physically contain "0"s and "1"'s .. that is a misnomer, it contains charges which fall within ranges.

But in quantum data, that bit is in a superposition determined by probabilities. Since the probability is a wave function, it is no longer defined by a specific number of possible states, it's not in "discrete" states at all, there are literally infinite possibilities.

To simplify, imagine if you said, "Now the superposition has a 32.66869948377385% chance of being a '0'. if we perform this operation, now the superposition has a 36.34383834334343% chance of being a '0'." There's an infinite # of %'s that can define its superposition between '1' and '0', so the information that can be contained by its ambiguous state is now far more complex.

Thus its potential for holding information becomes far, far more complex. Of course, there are likely going to be practical limits to how much information you can actually contain and measure within any particular network of superpositions.

A super-positioned qubit (as is the classical case) has a range of values with the added probabilistic element. BUT then we as scientists need to build and abstract away from that in order to build a theoretical framework for basic operations and an instruction set as a set of standard system calls (or system services). and then on top of that we build the algorithms.

As part of those abstractions we view qubits logically as containing 00, 01, 10, 11 not the underlying real numbers that you referred to.

We then add logical operations (analogues to boolean logic) as explained in this video ..



Then we build our quantum algorithms on top of that - new research field.

As this is still at its infancy the last I looked at this related to the DWAVE machines, they were used to solve decision problems which could be transformed into a hill-walking (min) problem. This is then used in classical problem terms by changing the representation of the NP-hard / EXP or harder problem that you want to solve using some polynomial time transformation, load it into DWAVE, get your solution, transform back. Then you have a polynomial time solution to the original harder problem.

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TL;DR - the speed up is related to the how that extra super-positioned "1+0 at the same time" state works against the exponential complexity explosion of classical computing problems from NP-hard, EXP and up .. the fact that the range of real (probabilistic) values in qubits is very large ("infinite" in principle) is not at all related to this speed up. It is the superposition of multiple 0,1 states (where each qubit has 2) which is.
 
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Even if they did teleport people (which I know they aren't) how many of y'all willing to get yourself disassembled then reassembled for teleportation?
How would you know if you were you or just a perfect clone of yourself?
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Even if they did teleport people (which I know they aren't) how many of y'all willing to get yourself disassembled then reassembled for teleportation?
How would you know if you were you or just a perfect clone of yourself?
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The theory is the teleportation of quantum information. So if you reassemble the person on the other side would they still have a soul?

Brian Greene speaks about it here

 

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the drive for better internet is being led by entertainment consumption demands...

so just more pixels for your porn, youtube and games

most people won't make any better use of this :pachaha:
 
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