Retired NbA player goes on anti-analytics rant , say nerds were jealous of real athletes

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Analytics shouldnt be applied to stars. Let them do their thing. Everybody else adhere to the stats.
Yeah I think for the stars if they are great at anything you build around that strength. I forgot who said it but basically they were saying stars are going to be stars, analytics is used to determine the types of players to surround those stars with.

I think the problem is the Rockets. Where people look at their high win totals and just attribute it to to the system so they try to copy the methodology of shooting as many threes as possible. For talent deficient teams it gives them a fighting chance in each game.

This subforum should love DeRozan and LMA the way y'all talk

They both play like it's still the 90s yet they don't get any love on here.

You mean the grind house Grizzlies? You work so hard for those 2 points and then the warriors would just hit back to back 3's.


shyt sucked fam.
The problem with both of those teams isn't that they were built around the post, it's that they didn't have enough shooting around those post/mid-range players to take advantage of the attention that those players can draw. If you're going to have two inside players like that you need knockdown shooters from deep to give those players room to work.
 

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Sixers should go all in on their height advantage. Have Embiid, Horford and Simmons take turns in the post. fukk it.
They have the perimeter defenders to defend the 3 too. If you can get high percentage chances at the rim while effectively defending lower % 3 pointers I feel like the numbers would be in your favor
 

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I don’t get the whole data nerds jealous because they can’t play angle.

Data is data and some people like mining it for advantages. It’s like the market rate, only need one to pay it to set the mark. It only took one guy to start digging in the crates and have it work for everyone to follow suit.
Data doesnt take into account many things. Say for example the nerdbot that tried to say of 33 players who posted on 50 possessions, only 4 avg 1pt per attempt. Data will show that to be true. That data isnt showing that none of those post possessions were designed to be post play. And then theyll compare it to 3pt plays designed to be 3pt plays. It doesnt take into account whether any of those post possessions were executed by players that are skilled post players. We could keep going. The point is, data can easily be skewed. Especially when you WANT the data to prove your hypothesis. This is how almost ALL scientific studies are done and why almost ALL are bullshyt because for every study supported with data stating one thing, you can also find an entirely different study stating the exact opposite, with data.
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That’s just like in any technical area...you have what the book says and you have what you see and learn from experience out in the field. Yea on paper certain things are what should be done but in real life what happens...?

This is what happens when you let office clowns dictate sports :mjlol:
 

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I don’t get the whole data nerds jealous because they can’t play angle.

Data is data and some people like mining it for advantages. It’s like the market rate, only need one to pay it to set the mark. It only took one guy to start digging in the crates and have it work for everyone to follow suit.
They dont watch games. Its not even a mix of data and having a feel for what youre seeing on the court.
 
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Perfect example.


It’s not a good example. The point is that teams can not duplicate the Warriors. The Warriors have literally two of the 3 or 4 best shooters of All-TIME on their team. Teams are seeing shooting as this skill that every one can just do. They can’t. You can’t shoot like Steph. You can’t shoot like Klay. Them dudes are next level. They same way everybody can’t be Shaq , or Kobe or Mike.
 
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