Rhetoric does not equal results: illegal immigration surges under Trump

[ill]

This is comical seeing as every pro-illegal voice in here is always shouting "Theres less illegals coming here so theres no point in the wall, immigration reform, etc etc"

Trump said only he could fix it. Republicans controlled the entire government for two years.

Seems to be an indictment on his policy.

Remember when the Democrats said fukk no to everything?

 

[Pressure]

This is comical seeing as every pro-illegal voice in here is always shouting "Theres less illegals coming here so theres no point in the wall, immigration reform, etc etc"




Remember when the Democrats said fukk no to everything?

Trump didn't have enough Republican votes. Let's not change the narrative.


There were less illegal immigrants until Trump and Miller implemented their policy. Y'all gotta hold this L.

 

[mc_brew]

Let's not talk around it, what means to stem illegal immigration do you support?

e-verify, harsh penalties for business that hire illegal immigrants, technological solutions to border patrol (drones, etc), cease meddling in foreign countries and destabilizing them, work with mexico and other central american countries to fix problems in their country and to enlist their help with stopping illegal immigration, harshly punish companies that employ people overstaying their visas, and #1.....

Spoiler

ending the failed drug war

people come here for a reason... if we turn off the magnets, they'll stop coming... that's a much better solution than the stupid 'ode to white supremacy' wall....

 

[Starman]

e-verify, harsh penalties for business that hire illegal immigrants, technological solutions to border patrol (drones, etc), cease meddling in foreign countries and destabilizing them, work with mexico and other central american countries to fix problems in their country and to enlist their help with stopping illegal immigration, harshly punish companies that employ people overstaying their visas, and #1.....

Spoiler

ending the failed drug war

people come here for a reason... if we turn off the magnets, they'll stop coming... that's a much better solution than the stupid 'ode to white supremacy' wall....

I see. I agree with punishing companies that hire illegal immigrants, but whats your beef with actually, physical impediments?

 

[mc_brew]

I see. I agree with punishing companies that hire illegal immigrants, but whats your beef with actually, physical impediments?

i'm for physical impediments, we have them now... we can augment that with technology... i don't support an 'ode to white supremacy' wall because it's ineffective and wasteful....

 

[JMurder]

I find this topic funny because America was built on illegal immigration

 

[Dr. Acula]

The thing is, I don't think this fact will hurt him with his supporters.

Lets pretend I'm Trump.

"So folks, i'm sure you saw the stats that illegal immigration is still an issue. WORST THEN IT EVER BEEN IN YEARS! YEARS! I blame the Democrats. They keep stalling on that magnificent wall. " *sniff* "We need to get them out of here! Get to the polls and help us get the greatest republican majority this country ever seen and we'll take care of this issue once and for all!"

 

[Starman]

i'm for physical impediments, we have them now... we can augment that with technology... i don't support an 'ode to white supremacy' wall because it's ineffective and wasteful....

At what point do the physical barriers you claim to support become an "ode to white supremacy " ()?

Do the barriers we have now work deter illegal immigrants in their areas?

How do drones deter illegal immigrants ?

The thing is, I don't think this fact will hurt him with his supporters.

Lets pretend I'm Trump.

"So folks, i'm sure you saw the stats that illegal immigration is still an issue. WORST THAT IT EVER BEEN IN YEARS! YEARS! I blame the Democrats. They keep stalling on that magnificent wall."

Yup.

 

[Pressure]

These numbers are a result of arrests at the border.

Not arrests by ice.

 

[DEAD7]

You mean traffic across the border increased when Trump began threatening to close the border/build a wall? Thats odd...

 

[mc_brew]

At what point do the physical barriers you claim to support become an "ode to white supremacy " ()?

Do the barriers we have now work deter illegal immigrants in their areas?

How do drones deter illegal immigrants ?

i got a better question for you, at what point do we recognize we can't fix this problem with physical barriers.... here, i'll even use a right wing analogy.... right wingers claim that people lock the doors to their houses to keep people out, so it automatically follows that we should lock the doors to our country... right? ... i have three doors to my house and admittedly, i lock all three when i'm not home..... note though, i lock all three.... right wingers are not proposing we lock all the doors to our country, just the southern door.... they'd leave wide open the pacific, gulf, and atlantic doors, along with the canadian door and flying into the country... what good is my locking my front door to keep criminals out if the side door, back door, and all windows are wide open... that's what makes it an 'ode to white supremacy'... only a moron would think that only putting a wall at the southern border would be a serious strategy for clamping down on illegal immigration....

 

[Starman]

i got a better question for you

Sounds like you plan to evade the questions.

at what point do we recognize we can't fix this problem with physical barriers.... here, i'll even use a right wing analogy.... right wingers claim that people lock the doors to their houses to keep people out, so it automatically follows that we should lock the doors to our country... right? ... i have three doors to my house and admittedly, i lock all three when i'm not home..... note though, i lock all three.... right wingers are not proposing we lock all the doors to our country, just the southern door.... they'd leave wide open the pacific, gulf, and atlantic doors, along with the canadian door and flying into the country... what good is my locking my front door to keep criminals out if the side door, back door, and all windows are wide open... that's what makes it an 'ode to white supremacy'... only a moron would think that only putting a wall at the southern border would be a serious strategy for clamping down on illegal immigration....

Yup.

To answer you, though, as best I know physical barriers work where they are on the southern border. Regarding our other 3 border, they aren't nearly the problem the south is , and I don't think the same solution would work. But I do think there is some solution required .

 

[the cac mamba]

i got a better question for you, at what point do we recognize we can't fix this problem with physical barriers.... here, i'll even use a right wing analogy.... right wingers claim that people lock the doors to their houses to keep people out, so it automatically follows that we should lock the doors to our country... right? ... i have three doors to my house and admittedly, i lock all three when i'm not home..... note though, i lock all three.... right wingers are not proposing we lock all the doors to our country, just the southern door.... they'd leave wide open the pacific, gulf, and atlantic doors, along with the canadian door and flying into the country... what good is my locking my front door to keep criminals out if the side door, back door, and all windows are wide open... that's what makes it an 'ode to white supremacy'... only a moron would think that only putting a wall at the southern border would be a serious strategy for clamping down on illegal immigration....

let me counter your stupid analogy; wouldnt you want to close your biggest door as your first priority the one that most people come through

you cant just discount every argument againt illegal immigration because trump supporters are racist

 

[Shogun]

The thing is, I don't think this fact will hurt him with his supporters.

Lets pretend I'm Trump.

"So folks, i'm sure you saw the stats that illegal immigration is still an issue. WORST THEN IT EVER BEEN IN YEARS! YEARS! I blame the Democrats. They keep stalling on that magnificent wall. " *sniff* "We need to get them out of here! Get to the polls and help us get the greatest republican majority this country ever seen and we'll take care of this issue once and for all!"

Pretty much the go-to play of a two-party system, no?

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

let me counter your stupid analogy; wouldnt you want to close your biggest door as your first priority the one that most people come through

you cant just discount every argument againt illegal immigration because trump supporters are racist

The Southern Border isn't the biggest "door" though. It's visa overstays.

It should be obvious to even you by now what the Southern Border/caravan hysteria is really about.