Richard Sherman expects a lockout when current CBA expires after 2020 season

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nothing will change in 2020. the vast majority of the players the union represents simply cant afford it
 

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Wouldn’t be surprised to see the NFL owners try to dismantle the NFLPA. The owners have too much leverage.
 

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The rookie wage is so criminal as well
Imagine being drafted at 22 in like the 4th round you'll be making under a mill for the next 5 years even if you are a all pro stud

A guy like Alfred Morris never got money

Alfred Morris 7 years in the NFL career earnings 5 mill
Exactly breh.

Making the NFL work for dudes in the league is actually not that hard. That cap is fukking massive ($177.2 million this year, will probably touch $200 million by 2020).

The problem is the distribution of that cap space among the players, and the lack of real guaranteed money at the bottom end of the 53-man roster.

The NFL will never pay what the NBA does because although it generates roughly double the total revenue of the NBA, there are nearly 4 times as many players.

But there's no reason a guy on special teams literally risking his life several times a game can't be guaranteed at least $1 million a year, even with the existing cap.

Fixing that problem is an internal issue among the players - and its one that's easily changed because of the democratic nature of all labor unions. Regardless of a players' star status, unions are all one man, one vote. Even if every QB, WR, CB and edge rusher refused to submit to a max annual average salary...they'd be outvoted by the other 1,000+ anonymous brehs putting that work in on a daily basis.

The NBAPA made a conscious decision early on to ensure the existence of a "middle class" of players - role players making $8, $10, $12 million a year. They did that by establishing max salaries - otherwise, Lebron would probably be making $90 million a year given how valuable he is. After they established that middle class, they went to work growing the player revenue share to where it is now (49% - 51% depending on total revenue).

The NFLPA needs to do the same thing - get their own house in order before going to war with the league. Otherwise, they're guaranteed to fail every time.
 

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Strike till that contract up.
You never win playing fair in America :drewmad:
He has a point. That’s where we lose as black people. Can’t play fair with a mofo that owns the game.
 

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Labor negotiations are all about leverage and NFL has a a ton of it. NFLPA will be lucky to get a few concessions.

Hard to stand in solidarity next to a vet making $6MM+ if you’re a late round pick or practice squad player making the minimum just trying to get your shot. Hard to save if you didn’t have much to begin with anyway. Once your livelihood is threatened it’s hard sticking together.

How were other leagues able to get better deals then? It's not as if there aren't players who make low amounts in the NBA and MLB.
 
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How were other leagues able to get better deals then? It's not as if there aren't players who make low amounts in the NBA and MLB.

Work stoppages as leverage. Last NFL strike was in 87 and they only missed one week.

NFL and MLB both have had more recent strikes that have shortened seasons. If NFL players are willing to do that, then I’m sure they could get a better deal and have owners on their heels a bit.
 
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IDK why nikkas in football cant save money. Even NBA fellas that dont play seem to have better financial acumen than NFL players (admittedly, the floor for NBA guys still vastly higher than the alternative)
ironic when you consider the 3 year school requirement too. nflpa jus garbage. perhaps they dont orient players
 

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It's funny because if these dudes saved their money and really did hold out the owners would cave...

But most of these nikkas living check to check like ordinary everyday people so we know how it is going to go
 

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The rookie wage is so criminal as well
Imagine being drafted at 22 in like the 4th round you'll be making under a mill for the next 5 years even if you are a all pro stud

A guy like Alfred Morris never got money

Alfred Morris 7 years in the NFL career earnings 5 mill
Just dismiss that anything after the 3rd round basically gets you to FA status faster but if you out perform the contract you'll possibly get franchised (which is BS imo) but Alfred didnt get his full worth because 1) the devaluing of RBs, 2) his numbers kept going down from his rookie season and 3) his get money year was a complete fall off and he got hurt. Hasn't been the same since. Harsh reality but that's how things played out
 
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Meanwhile Le’Veon Bell sits out because he’s dealing with a system that clearly is weighted against paying him fair market value, and his teammates react like he spit on someone’s mother.

I hope the players have the resolve to fight for what they deserve this time. What they do to their bodies, and what they get in return, makes no sense.

Guess we’ll see. :yeshrug:

Some of us have watched The NFL for years and have taken notice of the toxic environment it fosters. Being a good boy is hindering another nikkax right to get paid apparently. The Kaep thing was the last straw...not the first
 

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I've gotta assume it's a lot easier to rally and prepare 750+ active players (MLBPA), or 300+ players (NBAPA) as opposed to the 1,700+ the NFLPA represents. I remember Bart Scott talking about how two years prior to the lockout he was trying to tell younger players to save up and prepare, but it's just a lot easier said than done.

More than 20% of active players live paycheck to paycheck, that combined with shorter careers (try convincing a 25 year old to throw away a year of his prime earnings) and not having an outlet overseas kills most of their leverage.

I hope they come together and stand firm but it's really a long shot.
 
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