Richie Incognito

[Frump]

Why has this conversation not pivoted to these black players who ok'ed inconito's use of nikka? Honestly, you can't be mad at someone doing something they were granted a pass on, sucks for him that a VM and 40 second video clip can be framed however the media wants it to be

Plus its obvious from that video at the bar he was fukking around with a friend[Pouncey] not using the term to be derogatory but people in this country are so intellectually lazy and love to be outraged by everything rather then ever look at context so instead its

"oh my god he said ****** oh my god hes a klansnmen THROW HIM OUT OF THE LEAGUE!!!!

 

[Lakers Offseason]

That's a white writers interpertation man.

Incognito is just an alpha male and dudes across the board respect that.

These white writers love to think black dudes hate educated dudes. I'm sure white players disliked Martin for the same reason. He's soft.

Boom. And there it is. The narrative is now being driven by these dudes who have an agenda and who will write shyt to get the biggest reaction.

 

[J-Fire]

Err....my group of friends are from all kinds of different racial backgrounds. White, Indian, black (African), black (Carribean), Persian, etc. We don't address each other using racial slurs. I've seen other people do it that didn't really know me too well and I told em I'm not cool with it. Some dudes think mom jokes are cool. Not me....especially if you know my mom. C'mon. It has nothing to do with being sensitive and more to do with respect. If your friends don't respect you then what do you have? I'm gonna eat at your crib, have your moms make me a meal and then use a moms joke? Nah.

Now you taking it out of context IMO.

Aint another man gonna know me at an extreme level....fam & friends don't mix. But then again I'm thinking how we did things in grade school and college...Lets hang out and get drunk and whateva else....I'm not telling another man my life story. Now if I want to get with a girl/relationship then I feel ya point as being distepectful to a family member etc. But I'm talking about chillin, being funny, sports, tailgating and partying.

Now if I let friends know my fam and trying to be that close I could see ya point. But I don't like another man in my business at all. Let's just have fun!

 

[HacksawJimThuggin]

Whether he's racist or not is irrelevant. You can't drop slurs and fall back on the "but I'm not racist..I have black friends" shyt. I just at nikkaz breaking their necks to give this white dude a pass to drop n bombs. I don't give a fukk if he's well liked, that shyt isn't cool.

isn't cool to whom, though? it may not be cool to you or me, but truth be told, our opinions on the matter are irrelevant. It's private interactions between two people. If that's how they communicate and neither of them find it uncomfortable or crossing the line, then who am I to tell them otherwise? Think Incognito is getting a raw deal, but the fact that his private communications with someone were made public, leaves him open to scrutiny. So I have no problem with them cutting him. This is the risk you take when you have a friendship like that, that could be misconstrued by outsiders.

 

[Swagnificent]

So knowing what we know now:

1) Do you guys still think Incognito is racist?


2) What evidence is there that Incognito actually bullied Martin? Only evidence we've seen thus far is the transcript of one voicemail, and countless pictures and accounts of them hanging out together after that. That's it. So I have to say there's very little, to none.

1) white guy saying n1gger = racist to me....no ifs ands or buts......I don't care if some ignorant c00ns in Miami's locker room gave him a pass

2) Martin left his fukking JOB that pays him millions and has opened himself up to all this criticism of people calling him soft and you are telling me you don't think he was bullied. For a guy to do what he did, he must've endured alot of abuse and been scared as hell of what Incognito would do to him.

 

[philmonroe]

Yea, if you qualified your position with, "this is how i would react personally, because i feel like a person has power over me, otherwise.", then i'd understand your point. Thats your perception of the situation, not an axiom. i got that now. Initially, you quoted me, calling me obtuse and all this other irrelevant stuff.

i dont think reaction to words equates to universal admission of inferiority. Apparently, neither do you. You just believe thats the case in regards to yourself. Got you.

Honestly I didn't think I had to qualify because I thought it was obvious but at times I forget this is the Internet where things aren't understood like if we are face to face. I only called you obtuse at the time because that's how it came off to me esp when you switched the scenario around from being me being the person who it was said to, to one that I'm saying it to someone who may/may not think the same way as me. That probably came from me not be clear and Ill take that mistake on my part but I don't feel/see it that way now. It's more of a misunderstanding now that could have been prevented but hey it happens.

 

[HacksawJimThuggin]

1) white guy saying n1gger = racist to me....no ifs ands or buts......I don't care if some ignorant c00ns in Miami's locker room gave him a pass

2) Martin left his fukking JOB that pays him millions and has opened himself up to all this criticism of people calling him soft and you are telling me you don't think he was bullied. For a guy to do what he did, he must've endured alot of abuse and been scared as hell of what Incognito would do to him.

1) I don't necessarily think using a racial slur (ESPECIALLY how Incognito used it, but even otherwise) automatically = racist. But that's just me, everyone is obviously entitled to their own opinion.

2) That's the thing, his JOB was about to be taken from him. He has other mental issues and was probably going to be put on the NFI list and not paid his salary for the rest of the season once the meltdown happened. Rather than call it what it was, which is a mentally soft player coming to the realization that he can't handle the NFL (again, nothing wrong with that, the NFL isn't for everybody) game and that it was taking an enormous mental toll on his psyche, he used the team and Incognito as a scapegoat. And what do you know, just yesterday, the Dolphins decided to not put Martin on the NFI list because of the ongoing investigation, so he'll continue to get paid.

 

[dem bath salts]

Football players are fukking morons

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

isn't cool to whom, though? it may not be cool to you or me, but truth be told, our opinions on the matter are irrelevant. It's private interactions between two people. If that's how they communicate and neither of them find it uncomfortable or crossing the line, then who am I to tell them otherwise? Think Incognito is getting a raw deal, but the fact that his private communications with someone were made public, leaves him open to scrutiny. So I have no problem with them cutting him. This is the risk you take when you have a friendship like that, that could be misconstrued by outsiders.

Gotta c/s this. I don't fukk with other people sayin nikka around me, nor do I get down with my female friends calling me bytch, but I see plenty of other groups of girls who call each other bytch and I'm in no place to jump bad with them over the way I feel about it.

Lastly, so many black football players (at least in my experience) are the furthest from being militant/the type to really care about the context of the black struggle, I can easily see how this went over just fine in a locker room, dudes aren't thinking of hoses, sit ins, and segregation, they're thinking homies, hoes, money

 

[JahBuhLun]

A white man saying ******/nikka will always be a racist to me. I don't give a fukk if Farrakhan gave the white boy a pass, any Black man that cosigns a white man calling a Black man a ****** is a c00n. Truth is, no matter how soft Martin is, everybody in that locker room didn't like him because of his background. He may walk around like a bi racial p*ssy, doesn't matter. Call him a p*ssy, fakkit bytch made what ever but when you introduce ******, you've overstepped your boundaries. If the Dolphins wanted to protect themselves, they should've had Pouncey call out Martin, but you're going to send a piece of shyt white boy to correct a Black man that's more educated and comes from a better family than him? Oh yeah, I can see how that was going to work out fairly well.

 

[NYC Rebel]

A white man saying ******/nikka will always be a racist to me. I don't give a fukk if Farrakhan gave the white boy a pass, any Black man that cosigns a white man calling a Black man a ****** is a c00n. Truth is, no matter how soft Martin is, everybody in that locker room didn't like him because of his background. He may walk around like a bi racial p*ssy, doesn't matter. Call him a p*ssy, fakkit bytch made what ever but when you introduce ******, you've overstepped your boundaries. If the Dolphins wanted to protect themselves, they should've had Pouncey call out Martin, but you're going to send a piece of shyt white boy to correct a Black man that's more educated and comes from a better family than him? Oh yeah, I can see how that was going to work out fairly well.

Dog...coaches send alpha males period to do that job. Philbin is stupid for choosing an over the top blowhard.

 

[Trip]

Well, I've spoken to multiple people today about this and the explanation from all of them is that in the Dolphins locker room, Richie Incognito was considered a black guy. He was accepted by the black players. He was an honorary black man.
And Jonathan Martin, who is bi-racial, was not. Indeed, Martin was considered less black than Incognito.

"Richie is honarary," one player who left the Dolphins this offseason told me today. "I don't expect you to understand because you're not black. But being a black guy, being a brother is more than just about skin color. It's about how you carry yourself. How you play. Where you come from. What you've experienced. A lot of things."

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/#storylink=cpy

 

[dunkman6]

I'm shocked how most of the coli isn't calling Jonathan a c00n for not being "black enough".

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

@you celebrating these neanderthals calling a redneck an honorary black man and blacker than a black man because the redneck is an obnoxious, uber-macho a$$hole and the black man is Ivy league educated and comes from a family 3 generations deep as Harvard grads.

Are you going to ever answer my question about whether you're black or not btw?

 

[Trip]

@you celebrating these neanderthals calling a redneck an honorary black man and blacker than a black man because the redneck is an obnoxious, uber-macho @sshole and the black man is Ivy league educated and comes from a family 3 generations deep as Harvard grads.

Are you going to ever answer my question about whether you're black or not btw?

the parents seem like calculating ambulance chasers that know they mainstream media will back them....