Rick Ross throws Def Jam in the bushes, signs deal with Epic Records

[obarth]

yall laugh at Ross numbers but forget he pushed 50k in one week

We didn't forget

 

[Suleiman Bey]

Says you, I'm writing a book with my own money, paying for everything and guess what all the return profit going in my pocket...

this is the digital age, signing a contract when your a big ALREADY ESTABLISHED artist is stupid in my book, especially if your already popular. I get it, but I'm not about to sign my work away.

Nope. If they giving me a Mill upfront. I'm taking it. The fukk I look like spending my own money to make 3 dollars. That's hustling BACKWARDS!

 

[Suleiman Bey]

With all due respect breh, I can't get down with this thinking. If you have enough to fund your projects comfortably, you should do it without worrying about paying somebody else back. Give yourself a loan and don't worry about label pressure. Ross also has 2 other artists that can move 100k units.

You're being idiotic. Lets see take the million upfront and make moves or take my own money and hope to break even. Yeah, I'm gonna take their million.

 

[Champion]

Diddy, OutKast, Ciara, Future, Travi$ Scott, and Yo Gotti

I dont find this lineup that impressive to be completely honest.

Travi$ Scott
Ciara

Diddy

And Kast aint releasing music like that no more, if at all.

 

[THE MACHINE]

Nope. If they giving me a Mill upfront. I'm taking it. The fukk I look like spending my own money to make 3 dollars. That's hustling BACKWARDS!

If you invest your money and flop you will then move on to the next project
If you invest label money and flop you will , be in debt to the label and probably have your career shelved and still be under contract. Imagine being a multimillionaire and having to beg label bosses to try to get a release date.

 

[Big Boss]

 

[THE MACHINE]

You're being idiotic. Lets see take the million upfront and make moves or take my own money and hope to break even. Yeah, I'm gonna take their million.

Your thinking is flawed a bit. You seem to think you will fail with your money and succeed with theirs. Why is that?

 

[Ninjaz In Paris]

Diddy, OutKast, Ciara, Future, Travi$ Scott, and Yo Gotti

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Cash Out of Def Jam before the bottom falls out.

I'm surprised that it took him this long.

 

[Pinyapplesuckas]

 

[bordeaux]

i always thought it was amazing the rate def jam let him release albums. should be interesting to see if he gets the same treatment w/ epic.

 

[ORDER_66]

Nope. If they giving me a Mill upfront. I'm taking it. The fukk I look like spending my own money to make 3 dollars. That's hustling BACKWARDS!

You have to think about it from HIS viewpoint... RICK RO$$ is already an established artist with fans...

He could tour for a minute come back pay for some banging tracks self produce the album in house and release it all digitally... He could make a killing if the shyt is hot by itself, and guess what a ton of the proceeds he doesnt have to cut with anyone!!!

You not seeing the big picture, you know when you take that check the record companies own you, any work you make under them, they own!!! you dont OWN it...

 

[Suleiman Bey]

If you invest your money and flop you will then move on to the next project
If you invest label money and flop you will , be in debt to the label and probably have your career shelved and still be under contract. Imagine being a multimillionaire and having to beg label bosses to try to get a release date.

If you invest your money and flop, you just might be dead broke for real.

If I take an advance from the label I can use that money for damn near anything. 20 kilos a couple of cash businesses to launder my money. The label put me on the shelf, they can't actively be trying to get their money back. The artist wins.

Don't ask the label shyt just put out a carzy mixtape if it catches fire they gone try and gain off that.

 

[eastside313]

Acquiring Ross was a great strategic move. If Ross and Diddy are able to attract new artists to Bad Boy and MMG and maintain stability for the next couple of years. Epic may damn near become the new late 90s Def Jam
(Ruff Ryders, Rocafella, Murda Inc)

 

[THE MACHINE]

If you invest your money and flop, you just might be dead broke for real.

If I take an advance from the label I can use that money for damn near anything. 20 kilos a couple of cash businesses to launder my money. The label put me on the shelf, they can't actively be trying to get their money back. The artist wins.

Don't ask the label shyt just put out a carzy mixtape if it catches fire they gone try and gain off that.

I hear you man. I guess it's all about how much you have vs how much you invest. If you have to risk all of your money for an album you need to be on a major. If you can do it comfortably I still say go indy