"Right now any woman can say anything and a man's career is ruined" - Mika Brzezinski

[brick james]

PBS firing Tavis Smiley for having consensual sex with his subordinates while bringing negative media attention towards the network & unnecessary tension within the workplace is one thing, however Smiley's actions STILL don't constitute sexual assault or harassment & shouldn't be disingenuously categorized as such.

Breh, sexual harassment is extremely vague, and can be proven in civil court very easily in the presence of consensual sex with subordinates. PBS ain't trynna get sued.

Also, unnecessary tension in a sexual context is literally one of the key components of sexual harassment.

 

[brick james]

People using power and influence to get what they want is nothing new. That will always be the case whether it's for sexual favors or other.

We're in a quid pro quo society. People expect something in return that's why they allow shyt to happen. I'm against rape or anytime someone is forced against their will. But most of these stories is just dumb hoes getting played


I've said plenty of stupid shyt to get into female's pants

But I think its pretty obvious, that if you are playing these dumb hoes at work, you are playing with fire. Trying to have sex with a coworker in 2017 and get away with it is hard work brehs

 

[Copy Ninja]

But I think its pretty obvious, that if you are playing these dumb hoes at work, you are playing with fire. Trying to have sex with a coworker in 2017 and get away with it is hard work brehs

In today's society, yeah that would be dumb as fukk. Even flirting with these females can have repercussions.

I have heard mutliple business owners say they're not going to hire females anymore to avoid all this shyt

 

[mastermind]

I have heard mutliple business owners say they're not going to hire females anymore to avoid all this shyt

this is the problem with men.

Instead of not harrassing women at work, we punish women for our desires.

This no different than telling women to wear a burka.

 

[brick james]

In today's society, yeah that would be dumb as fukk. Even flirting with these females can have repercussions.

I have heard mutliple business owners say they're not going to hire females anymore to avoid all this shyt

I feel like that's a much bigger hit to the bottom line than the potential fall out from sexual harassment suits and what not. As important as money is to me, its only slightly worse than a nikka saying that he's not going to fukk bytches anymore to avoid all of this shyt. The game is always going to be the game, make smart choices, and pick good people to hire and fukk and everything will be alright. If you are worried about females making false accusations, you should be even more worried that they are going to sell company secrets, and steal client info and shyt like that depending on what field you work in.

 

[ghostwriterx]

PBS firing Tavis Smiley for having consensual sex with his subordinates while bringing negative media attention towards the network & unnecessary tension within the workplace is one thing, however Smiley's actions STILL don't constitute sexual assault or harassment & shouldn't be disingenuously categorized as such.

That's a quite a strawman, I haven't seen anyone claim Smiley assaulted or even "harassed" anyone. The phrasing that was used was "sexual misconduct". A boss having sexual relations with several subordinates would definitely seem to fit.

PBS Suspends ‘Tavis Smiley’ Following Sexual Misconduct Investigation (EXCLUSIVE)
"Some witnesses interviewed expressed concern that their employment status was linked to the status of a sexual relationship with Smiley."

What would you do with an employee after discovering this? Wait for the lawsuit?

 

[Copy Ninja]

this is the problem with men.

Instead of not harrassing women at work, we punish women for our desires.

This no different than telling women to wear a burka.

That's a bit extreme.

The point of these business owners saying that is that they feel the pendelum has swung so far to the other side that women can say whatever they want without proof and society is going to believe them otherwise you're "part of the problem".

 

[88m3]

Have some self control at work, Brehs! Really not that hard!

 

[Copy Ninja]

Have some self control at work, Brehs! Really not that hard!

Some of you really believe deceiving and taking advantage of situations is only exclusive to males
Look at all these female teachers fukking their students
You're trying to tell me deceptive females only become teachers?

 

[mastermind]

That's a bit extreme.

The point of these business owners saying that is that they feel the pendelum has swung so far to the other side that women can say whatever they want without proof and society is going to believe them otherwise you're "part of the problem".

the extreme is not hiring women because they don't want to harass women.

I swear, a lot of you dudes siound like white people fighting racial integration. "The pendulum has swung too far"

Women have only just started having their issues heard and the response is, "well i don't know if I can hire women now."

Look at all these female teachers fukking their students

Those women get criminal convictions and goto jail for that shyt. Their careers are literally over.

 

[O.G.B]

That's a quite a strawman, I haven't seen anyone claim Smiley assaulted or even "harassed" anyone. The phrasing that was used was "sexual misconduct". A boss having sexual relations with several subordinates would definitely seem to fit.

Breh, sexual harassment is extremely vague, and can be proven in civil court very easily in the presence of consensual sex with subordinates. PBS ain't trynna get sued.

All large corporations have "sexual misconduct" guidelines which prohibit those in management & executive positions from having sex with subordinates. And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that "sexual misconduct" can comprise of many different variables.

However, specifically in Tavis Smiley's case, "sexual misconduct" DOES NOT denote him sexually assaulting or harassing the women he was involved with on an consensually intimate level.

What would you do with an employee after discovering this?

I already stated Tavis should have been fired based on conduct detrimental to the workplace, but to specifically categorize his termination from PBS as a #MeToo situation is not only completely wrong but dangerous.

PBS ain't trynna get sued.

Tavis Smiley's termination from PBS does not preclude or rule out that any of the women he was sexually involved with won't file a lawsuit after the fact!

 

[Copy Ninja]

the extreme is not hiring women because they don't want to harass women.

I swear, a lot of you dudes sign like white people fighting racial integration. "The pendulum has swung too far"

Women have only just started having their issues heard and the response is, "well i don't know if I can hire women now."




Those women get criminal convictions and goto jail for that shyt. Their careers are literally over.

The reason why i mentioned female teachers is to show deceitful and manipulative behavior is not exlusive to men
What makes you think some of these females accusing men aren't lying

 

[O.G.B]

If you're looking for someone to blame for the #MeToo movement, blame the men who keep admitting to the allegations and stepping down. :bpumad:

While I don't think every case was legitimate, I have been really surprised by how many accused men have not only not denied allegations, but have agreed to step down from their positions and submit to disciplinary action. :bpohh:

If you don't think every "case was legitimate in the current " #MeToo movement, then this would mean that some of the women were possible lying or coming out claiming sexual impropriety for nefarious reasons which EXACTLY proves my point!

All sexual allegations need to be throughly vetted for both men & women instead of the current automatic guilt before proven innocent climate that we're currently in.

 

[mastermind]

What makes you think some of these females accusing men aren't lying

Because nearly every one of the men have not refuted it.

And what did Al Franken wasn't the first allegation, it was the other six.

 

[Copy Ninja]

Because nearly every one of the men have not refuted it.

And what did Al Franken wasn't the first allegation, it was the other six.

In Franken's going away speech, he denied the allegations and said he remembered the other allegations differently. He apologized because it was the politically correct thing to do.

Franken should have stayed and said fukk these lying hoes.
Gillibrand and those other backstabbing female senators aint' shyt