RIP GEORGE H.W. BUSH

[Baka's Weird Case]

Fukk George Bush, but with that Eagles slander.

yeah im not an eagles fan but they arent a team
How the Philadelphia Eagles became the NFL's wokest team

 

[88m3]

He actually did some positive things this is the coli though

 

[thatrapsfan]

Are you being ironic?

What the fukk is with y’all trying to give props to HW Bush?

He was in charge of the CIA during the time when it was known they sold crack to inner cities. He and his neocon buddies are responsible for the explosion in the private prison system. Invading Kuwait and jumpstarting America’s imperialist policies in the Middle East isn’t something you should be applauding either.

Some of you ignorant c*nts make me sick with how little you know about America’s history. This shyt happened less than 40 years ago.

Not being ironic at all. I wouldn’t vote for him but his foreign policy record is far from the worst and decent by Republican standards.

-The Gulf War was supported by the UN, the entire region, and thad a coalition so broad it even included Assad’s father

-He showed pragmatism in his dealings with Gorbachev and did well with the unification of Germany

-His arms control deals with the Russians were a net positive anyway you look at it

- As far as American Presidents go, he was relatively more even-handed on Israel/Palestine. He took a tougher stance on status of Jerusalem and on settlements than his successors.

 

[GPBear]

Not being ironic at all. I wouldn’t vote for him but his foreign policy record is far from the worst and decent by Republican standards.

-The Gulf War was supported by the UN, the entire region, and thad a coalition so broad it even included Assad’s father

-He showed pragmatism in his dealings with Gorbachev and did well with the unification of Germany

-His arms control deals with the Russians were a net positive anyway you look at it

- As far as American Presidents go, he was relatively more even-handed on Israel/Palestine. He took a tougher stance on status of Jerusalem and on settlements than his successors.

What the fukk are you talking about?

Why was Saddam in charge in the first place? Because he was backed by the US government, through the Reagan administration and the CIA when George Bush was in charge of it.
I'm not even going to get into this, saying the guy who ruined South America with cocaine terrorism had a decent foreign policy track record is fukking absurd.

 

[the cac mamba]

Negable thread

imagine saying rest in peace to a piece of shyt like this

and this is the dude that HL annoints

 

[the cac mamba]

He actually did some positive things this is the coli though

every president did positive things, it's impossible not to. even agent orange

 

[ZoeGod]

He actually did some positive things this is the coli though

Yeah the war on drugs which basically destroyed the black community was sure positive.

 

[88m3]

Yeah the war on drugs which basically destroyed the black community was sure positive.

instead of being a moron you're welcome to read wikipedia for two minutes

or just read theknickfans post above

 

[Wild self]

the only semi decent republican president since eisenhower. so RIP

That would be Gerald Ford.

But HW Bush is gone and George W is even further lost. Guess that what happens when the current Republican party worships Trump.

 

[Paper Boi]

of course nap would start this thread.

as i said in my neg, commit that.

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

Not being ironic at all. I wouldn’t vote for him but his foreign policy record is far from the worst and decent by Republican standards.

-The Gulf War was supported by the UN, the entire region, and thad a coalition so broad it even included Assad’s father

-He showed pragmatism in his dealings with Gorbachev and did well with the unification of Germany

-His arms control deals with the Russians were a net positive anyway you look at it

- As far as American Presidents go, he was relatively more even-handed on Israel/Palestine. He took a tougher stance on status of Jerusalem and on settlements than his successors.

gulf war i mainly just give credit to the fact his admin. didnt try to invade iraq after expelling republican guard from kuwait. the actual foreign policy of hw bush on iraq is pretty bad considering his role in supporting both sides of iran-iraq in the 80s. his admin then encouraged a rebellion in iraq AFTER desert storm that they then failed to support at all. DoD and the military handled combat in desert storm well.
the russian arms control deals were clearly very good for both sides and you would have to be an insane neocon to not want to sign them. a lot of this stuff is just things bush couldve messed up badly by getting too involved in but didnt, not things he heavily influenced through great statecraft and policy.

edit: want to add that now that im thinking about it, he was probably president at a better time for american power in the world in the last 50 years. in the optimistic period between the end of the cold war and the start of the yugoslav wars, then the war on terror.

 

[88m3]

@GPBear no one is saying those things aren't terrible and unworthy of scorn. Take off the tunnel vision and be an adult.

No one is in here saying good job on the drug war and private prisons are the pinnacle of American democracy

 

[thatrapsfan]

gulf war i mainly just give credit to the fact his admin. didnt try to invade iraq after expelling republican guard from kuwait. the actual foreign policy of hw bush on iraq is pretty bad considering his role in supporting both sides of iran-iraq in the 80s. his admin then encouraged a rebellion in iraq AFTER desert storm that they then failed to support at all. DoD and the military handled combat in desert storm well.
the russian arms control deals were clearly very good for both sides and you would have to be an insane neocon to not want to sign them. a lot of this stuff is just things bush couldve messed up badly by getting too involved in but didnt, not things he heavily influenced through great statecraft and policy.

edit: want to add that now that im thinking about it, he was probably president at a better time for american power in the world in the last 50 years. in the optimistic period between the end of the cold war and the start of the yugoslav wars, then the war on terror.

Disagree with this framing, he had a lot of influence on the nature of how the war was pursued (broad regional coalition, and broad UN mandate) both things were key objectives for him and his advisors, the most influential of whom were not neo-cons but prominent realists. Same goes with how they gave DoD a lot of latitude on planning - don’t think it was a coincidence or luck, but a reflection of how he and his advisers pursued FP decision making.

Also the very public opposition of his NSA, Brent Scowcroft to the Iraq War underscored the difference between the Bush Srs WH and Jrs: Don't Attack Saddam

None of this is to say I think he was some sort of hero, but simply to support my initial statement.

 

[Skooby]

At least I get the day off...:

National Day of Mourning Declared: Government Closed December 5th : FedSmith.com

National Day of Mourning Declared: Government Closed December 5th

President Donald Trump has issued a proclamation announcing the death of President George H.W. Bush. Federal agencies will be closed on December 5th to honor of the death of America’s 41st President, George H. W. Bush.

The executive order, released on December 1st, orders federal agencies to prepare for the closing. This preparation includes determining the offices to remain open and personnel who will be required to report for national security, defense or other essential duties. The Office of Personnel Management (OPM) will undertake the job of implementing the Executive Order.

President George H.W. Bush died on Friday. He was 94 years old. President Bush will lie in state in the Capitol Rotunda next week and the public will be able to pay respects from 7:30 p.m. Monday to 7 a.m. Wednesday.

President Trump’s proclamation stated, in part:

On the day he turned 18, 6 months after the attack on Pearl Harbor, George H.W. Bush volunteered for combat duty in the Second World War. The youngest aviator in United States naval history at the time, he flew 58 combat missions, including one in which, after taking enemy fire, he parachuted from his burning plane into the Pacific Ocean. After the war, he returned home and started a business. In his words, “the big thing” he learned from this endeavor was “the satisfaction of creating jobs.”

He never believed that government — even when under his own leadership — could be the source of our Nation’s strength or its greatness. America, he rightly told us, is illuminated by “a thousand points of light,” “ethnic, religious, social, business, labor union, neighborhood, regional and other organizations, all of them varied, voluntary and unique” in which Americans serve Americans to build and maintain the greatest Nation on the face of the Earth. President Bush recognized that these communities of people are the true source of America’s strength and vitality.

December 5th will be an observable holiday for most federal employees. Wednesday will be considered a holiday under the provisions of Executive Order 11582.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Stock markets closed on Wednesday...

That's something I can thank HWB for...