Roberto Duran: "Mayweather Would've Been Ordinary in My Era"

[surv2syn]

Terry Norris is at weight class Floyd has only fought at twice
Floyd has fought big punches, guys bigger and stronger than him already, why would Norris be any different wasn't a technical beast he lost fights to guy he had no business
losing too, guys no where Floyd's level

my point is this....Floyd is not as high on the All Time P4P lists as he should be because he cherrypicked a lot of opponents and avoided some challenges along the way. at the end of the day its business and that dont make him no chump. but his resume would look much better had he replaced Hernandez and Chavez with Casamayor and Freitas. and along the way maybe fought Paul Williams instead of a done Sharmba that had just got crushed by Tszyu. Can you really deny that with a straight face? SRL ducked Pryor...but that can easily be forgiven because he fought all those other greats. So SRL can say..well who was Pryor? Floyd wait til a nikka lose and say thats why I didnt fight him in the first place.

 

[Black_Jesus]

How much work would Floyd get from Roy Jones jr in his prime?

nikka would never step foot in the ring with a prime Roy. lol @ the thought though

 

[King P]

uhhh who? I'll wait.

Huh? My post was directed towards the dude above who made it some like Norris was just another fighter Floyd would make easy work of like he's faced somebody like Norris before. And he hasn't.

 

[surv2syn]

Huh? My post was directed towards the dude above who made it some like Norris was just another fighter Floyd would make easy work of like he's faced somebody like Norris before. And he hasn't.

my bad breh...this new layout fukkin wit me and u didnt put his in quotes. if they were in today's world that fight would not get made...if Floyd was in Norris' era...and he fought...that would be more than a handful. Norris didnt jump around from weight class....and he was no Zab. yeah, he got starched by some murderous punchers but he showed no love to SRL and Curry and he crushed Taylor....that era's rich man's Berto. Norris was a complete offensive fighter with a shaky chin...but you had to have the firepower to walk through his arsenal to get to it. Floyd couldnt potshot a nikka that fast. Shame that Norris JUST did miss that DLH payday. Still got that $7 mil settlement from DK though.

 

[blackzeus]

I wanna say something about the Mosley fight and what I said about speed. When that fight was made, people were like.... this is a challenge for Floyd. man, Shane had been done, he had just exposed Margacheato thats all. the big bad wolf at 147 who was overrated like shyt. I told people...this will be an easy fight for Floyd, trust me. Why they asked? Well....Shane has NEVER had the pure boxing skills of FMJ..not even close. What made Shane great was his athleticism, great hand and foot speed and great body punching! That Mosley had been a thing of the past by this time. If you have a fighter who's greatest attributes are physical and not technical...well what happens when they slow down? If they wouldve met 8 years prior...it wouldve been a different fight.

Also Floyd loves to let guys do his dirty work for him. He didnt want to fight Casa or Freitas so he let them fight each other...then he still didnt fight the winner. Then when Frietas lost to Chico, he said...I beat Chico....so by default I beat Freitas. He waited around for Johnston to lose then beat the man that beat him. Waited for Tszyu to lose then beat the guy that beat him. Waited for Manny to lose...then said....I beat JMM. nikkas be giving Floyd wins by default....just sayin he didnt have to fight this nikka because I beat the guy that beat him and notice....all those times it happened were AFTER the fact of when Floyd had the opportunity to face them.

step away from the keyboard....yeah....we in this bytch now....

If they were so good why did they lose? Instead of saying Floyd was right, they say Floyd was duckin' the nikka Pacman from the beginning never had a chance against Floyd, and although styles make fights, if you lose to a nikka, and that nikka lost to another nikka you wanted to face, what kind of credibility do you have? Nikkaz mad 'cause Floyd don't take any old fight for the f*ck of it, crybaby azz crab nikkaz, cry me a river

 

[blackzeus]

Watch the Margaritio fight does Shane look slow there, when he was rolling video game combos on that nikka


You aint been right since I disciplined you a few weeks back

Don't argue with haters, b, they're job is to hate, not reason. Duran says some sh*t, and everybody jumps on the badwagon, because they hate Floyd. Jordan said Kobe is the best, Larry Bird says Kobe only having one MVP makes him want to give his back, Magic said Kobe is the greatest Laker of all time, nobody says sh*t. Pippen says Lebron is best, the hater floodgates open on some type "I told you so!" They just want to hear sh*t that correlates with their hatred, f*ckin' gut maggots

 

[surv2syn]

If they were so good why did they lose? Instead of saying Floyd was right, they say Floyd was duckin' the nikka Pacman from the beginning never had a chance against Floyd, and although styles make fights, if you lose to a nikka, and that nikka lost to another nikka you wanted to face, what kind of credibility do you have? Nikkaz mad 'cause Floyd don't take any old fight for the f*ck of it, crybaby azz crab nikkaz, cry me a river

when I say HOF fighters in their prime and you say no others were around...well....Floyd's inclusion in the battles at lightweight couldve produced some HOFers. Casamayor has had a good career and someone mentioned Corrales and Castillo maybe getting in. Had they all had ample opportunity to face Floyd...that wouldve bolstered their careers. his team was never interested in letting his O go though. and its not like guys would beat Floyd...the thing is...he took the past of least resistance for the sake of money and that wont look favorable on All Time lists. I remember for sure he didnt want Casamayor. His team didnt like that style. Would he have beaten Casa...yes, likely but it was too much of a risk to take. He is making $40-50 mil a fight now...so you cant fault his business moves. Wouldnt be wise to be losing. The aura of Floyd now is that he is undefeated for so long people watch to see that day he loses because it will make world news.

Its business, at the end of the day what did it mean that Floyd didnt fight Stevie Johnston? I am not picking on Floyd...Shane ducked Stevie too.

Why not pick off an undefeated young fighter or established champ....then every good fighter he beats afterwards makes your win look even better? No. Floyd did it the opposite way....he waits for the guy to lose to prove a point that he didnt need to fight him in the first place.

He jumped at the opportunity to fight Castillo after he beat Johnston thinking he was an easy pick-off. No one, including Floyd knew Castillo was as good as he was...fortunately for us we found out.

 

[surv2syn]

If they were so good why did they lose? Instead of saying Floyd was right, they say Floyd was duckin' the nikka Pacman from the beginning never had a chance against Floyd, and although styles make fights, if you lose to a nikka, and that nikka lost to another nikka you wanted to face, what kind of credibility do you have? Nikkaz mad 'cause Floyd don't take any old fight for the f*ck of it, crybaby azz crab nikkaz, cry me a river

at the end of the day Floyd is the highest paid athlete, so he accomplished what he wanted...but no hate...yall nikkas will never accept that if it comes down to purely money....those fights shouldve been made in lieu of others.

Casamayor and Freitas were more profitable fights than Hernandez and Chavez....who nobody even remembers.
Tszyu was just as profitable a fight as Gatti.
and during the Pac fallout we got Ortiz and Guerrero.

the 4 fighters he didnt face meant much more to his legacy than the 4 he fought. the 4 he fought....nobody even knows who they are...and I remember vividly when Floyd fought Sharmba after Gatti...that was just about the breaking point for his career had he not faced Zab.

Floyd had a chance to really bolster his legacy but he didnt. He's fine with that and I am too...but you nikkas get unsettled when we prove that he was not about money as much as he claimed to be if the risk was too great.

 

[blackzeus]

when I say HOF fighters in their prime and you say no others were around...well....Floyd's inclusion in the battles at lightweight couldve produced some HOFers. Casamayor has had a good career and someone mentioned Corrales and Castillo maybe getting in. Had they all had ample opportunity to face Floyd...that wouldve bolstered their careers. his team was never interested in letting his O go though. and its not like guys would beat Floyd...the thing is...he took the past of least resistance for the sake of money and that wont look favorable on All Time lists. I remember for sure he didnt want Casamayor. His team didnt like that style. Would he have beaten Casa...yes, likely but it was too much of a risk to take. He is making $40-50 mil a fight now...so you cant fault his business moves. Wouldnt be wise to be losing. The aura of Floyd now is that he is undefeated for so long people watch to see that day he loses because it will make world news.

Its business, at the end of the day what did it mean that Floyd didnt fight Stevie Johnston? I am not picking on Floyd...Shane ducked Stevie too.

Why not pick off an undefeated young fighter or established champ....then every good fighter he beats afterwards makes your win look even better? No. Floyd did it the opposite way....he waits for the guy to lose to prove a point that he didnt need to fight him in the first place.

He jumped at the opportunity to fight Castillo after he beat Johnston thinking he was an easy pick-off. No one, including Floyd knew Castillo was as good as he was...fortunately for us we found out.

Yeah, but Floyd still won. And Floyd did fight Corrales, and who gives a f*ck about Casamayor, he lost to Freitas, Castillo, Guerrero, and the rematch to Corrales, all of whom Floyd beat, yet you want Floyd to fight him? I think you're being blinded by the hate b. To you, if a nikka doesn't wanna fight someone who lost to someone he already beat, he's duckin' the fight. What the f*ck kind of logic is that?

 

[surv2syn]

Yeah, but Floyd still won. And Floyd did fight Corrales, and who gives a f*ck about Casamayor, he lost to Freitas, Castillo, Guerrero, and the rematch to Corrales, all of whom Floyd beat, yet you want Floyd to fight him? I think you're being blinded by the hate b. To you, if a nikka doesn't wanna fight someone who lost to someone he already beat, he's duckin' the fight. What the f*ck kind of logic is that?

like I said...u talkin bout shyt after that fact which proves you dont know what you are talkin bout or were just born in 2001 or shortly after. Casa and Freitas who were undefeated waited a year while Floyd fought Hernandez and Chavez then vacated. they still fought each other and made good money...more than Castillo made for fighting Floyd. so stfu...because you dont know what the hell you are talkin about. Floyd wasnt even in the fukkin division when those losses took place.

 

[blackzeus]

like I said...u talkin bout shyt after that fact which proves you dont know what you are talkin bout or were just born in 2001 or shortly after. Casa and Freitas who were undefeated waited a year while Floyd fought Hernandez and Chavez then vacated. they still fought each other and made good money...more than Castillo made for fighting Floyd. so stfu...because you dont know what the hell you are talkin about. Floyd wasnt even in the fukkin division when those losses took place.

Yes nikka, obviously we are talking about sh*t after the fact. You tryin' to see Floyd should have taken a match that we can clearly see now based on Casamayor's history wouldn't have meant much. What would beating Casamayor have added to Floyd's legacy?

 

[surv2syn]

Yes nikka, obviously we are talking about sh*t after the fact. You tryin' to see Floyd should have taken a match that we can clearly see now based on Casamayor's history wouldn't have meant much. What would beating Casamayor have added to Floyd's legacy?

more than Jesus Chavez and Carlos Hernandez did...or wait...was it Carlos Chavez and Jesus Hernandez? I forget.

 

[Master Teacher]

my point is this....Floyd is not as high on the All Time P4P lists as he should be because he cherrypicked a lot of opponents and avoided some challenges along the way. at the end of the day its business and that dont make him no chump. but his resume would look much better had he replaced Hernandez and Chavez with Casamayor and Freitas. and along the way maybe fought Paul Williams instead of a done Sharmba that had just got crushed by Tszyu. Can you really deny that with a straight face? SRL ducked Pryor...but that can easily be forgiven because he fought all those other greats. So SRL can say..well who was Pryor? Floyd wait til a nikka lose and say thats why I didnt fight him in the first place.

you make no fukking sense, Tsyzu lost to Hatton in the end, if he would have won that fight he would have fought Floyd and got his ass beat
you have to smoking some serious shyt to think Tsyzu wouldn't get his ass beat against Floyd be serious
he fought Tszyu and never fought Judah, they'd say he ducked Judah because of his hand speed

Gatti was bigger name and draw than Tszyu, and he helped Floyd become A NAME IN THE SPORT thats why he fought him in his HOME TOWN
he had all the publicity from the fight

De La Hoya weighed 168 on the night of their fight man, floyd had the big ass gloves, the smaller ring everything De La Hoya wanted
because thats what you have to do when facing the man
but nah that don't count

you gotta stop this hating man

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

when I say HOF fighters in their prime and you say no others were around...well....Floyd's inclusion in the battles at lightweight couldve produced some HOFers. Casamayor has had a good career and someone mentioned Corrales and Castillo maybe getting in. Had they all had ample opportunity to face Floyd...that wouldve bolstered their careers. his team was never interested in letting his O go though. and its not like guys would beat Floyd...the thing is...he took the past of least resistance for the sake of money and that wont look favorable on All Time lists. I remember for sure he didnt want Casamayor. His team didnt like that style. Would he have beaten Casa...yes, likely but it was too much of a risk to take. He is making $40-50 mil a fight now...so you cant fault his business moves. Wouldnt be wise to be losing. The aura of Floyd now is that he is undefeated for so long people watch to see that day he loses because it will make world news.

Its business, at the end of the day what did it mean that Floyd didnt fight Stevie Johnston? I am not picking on Floyd...Shane ducked Stevie too.

Why not pick off an undefeated young fighter or established champ....then every good fighter he beats afterwards makes your win look even better? No. Floyd did it the opposite way....he waits for the guy to lose to prove a point that he didnt need to fight him in the first place.

He jumped at the opportunity to fight Castillo after he beat Johnston thinking he was an easy pick-off. No one, including Floyd knew Castillo was as good as he was...fortunately for us we found out.

Aren't you the one shytting on Canelo erry chance you get N talking bout hype this hype that??

Floyd is doin exactly what you said N you bytch about it then wonder why he ddidn't fight more young undefeated fighters

Chavez won a belt after Floyd beat him...according to your logic that would make that W floyd got over the young guy better right?? But nope you over here shytting on dude


N wasn't the Mitchell fight A test the waters at 147 fight?? So we criticizing a small nikkas first fight at a new weight now

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Floyd was ducking Vivian Harris Brehs

Don't talk to me bout him getting ktfo after the fact

At one point he was undefeated N Floyd didn't wanna fight him