Rodney Harrison says Peyton Manning is better than Tom Brady

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He is favored comparatively because he has won more than Manning. Like i said the playoff records are fact not opinion. Dungy is respected but he may as well have been the special teams coach as far a props given in 06. Brady doesnt get those questions because he and his team "has" done it regardless of the time frame. I see your point but its hard to argue "can he do it" if he is rocking 3 rings despite if you think he was the catalyst for them or not.

Which one is it? Does Brady not get the same props or is he favorably compared?

If the rings warrant props why don't the recent L's warrant criticism?

Peyton has a ring too and the playoffs shyt still follows him and according to you he is more responsible for the success.
 

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They are both Great. but im going with Manning. IMO Brady has had better teams/coaching. The year Brady was out the Patriots damn near made the playoffs, the year Manning was out the colts ended up with the #1 overall pick....
 

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brady's first 9 postseason games:

pats forced 25 TO's and allowed 16 PPG.

3 SB wins.

peyton's first 9 postseason games:

colts defense only 13 TO's and allowed 23 PPG.

brady had more room for error than peyton had.
How many of those 23 PPG were the result of Peyton throwing an INT...or playing awful.

Peyton's 1st play loss the Colts gave up only 19 points. Peyton had a 45% completion percentage and his squad only put up 16.

Peyton's second playoff loss he passed for about 54% while Edge has 107 yards rushing. His defense got him 3 INTs. Two leading in MIA territory directly to scores. His defense also stopped MIA who had the ball first in OT. The Colts O got 3 in the second half, they basically stalled once the D was not putting htem at the MIA 30 anymore.

His third loss his offense failed to score, he had a 45% passing percentage and throw 2 INTs on his way to loss 41-0 to the Jets. They got smacked, period.

He preceded to shyt on average DEN and KC defenses for his next two wins (the KC win impressive because it was a shoot out), and then he threw 4 INTS vs. the Patriots. Note: Brady would then play the Panthers in the SB that had allowed only one team to put 30 on them last year and had held the Titans to 10 and Eagles to 3. The Patriots defense gave up 29 points, Brady responded by leading them to 32 points with 3 TDs and a Superbowl completion record only with 354 yards passing (it was at this point that I said Brady had surpassed Peyton and that his numbers would show it if he ever got the weapons).

There was nothing exaggerated about how Peyton played at that point. @BLAZO da GAWD notice how no one is quoting this post :dead:
 
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Which one is it? Does Brady not get the same props or is he favorably compared?

If the rings warrant props why don't the recent L's warrant criticism?

Peyton has a ring too and the playoffs shyt still follows him and according to you he is more responsible for the success.
dont act like belly doesnt his props when they win. he gets favorably compared because of more success. on the other end it was manning and the colts. and the Ls warrant critcism in which peyton has more of
 

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Dungy and Caldwell won't get the credit they deserve. Caldwell switched to calling plays for the Ravens and they won the SB but evidently he wasn't good enough to call plays for Peyton :mjpls:. Dungy built powerhouses in two cities but all I hear is Peyton, Peyton, Peyton. Brady is better, Peyton is just more animated at the line. He is having an incredible season, but let's not forget the pats are 4-0 too.
 

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dont act like belly doesnt his props when they win. he gets favorably compared because of more success. on the other end it was manning and the colts. and the Ls warrant critcism in which peyton has more of

Thanks bruh I preciate that. But my point is Brady does get less props. I agree with you that the pats D during those runs gets downplayed. Yet everyone knows that if the Pats were a car then Belly owns it and Brady drives it. Manning's SB win was was about Manning and Dungy was an afterthought despite his D winning it for them.

Which one is it breh?
 

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How many of those 23 PPG were the result of Peyton throwing an INT...or playing awful.

Peyton's 1st play loss the Colts gave up only 19 points. Peyton had a 45% completion percentage and his squad only put up 16.

Peyton's second playoff loss he passed for about 54% while Edge has 107 yards rushing. His defense got him 3 INTs. Two leading in MIA territory directly to scores. His defense also stopped MIA who had the ball first in OT. The Colts O got 3 in the second half, they basically stalled once the D was not putting htem at the MIA 30 anymore.

His third loss his offense failed to score, he had a 45% passing percentage and throw 2 INTs on his way to loss 41-0 to the Jets. They got smacked, period.

He preceded to shyt on average DEN and KC defenses for his next two wins (the KC win impressive because it was a shoot out), and then he threw 4 INTS vs. the Patriots. Note: Brady would then play the Panthers in the SB that had allowed only one team to put 30 on them last year and had held the Titans to 10 and Eagles to 3. The Patriots defense gave up 29 points, Brady responded by leading them to 32 points with 3 TDs and a Superbowl completion record only with 354 yards passing (it was at this point that I said Brady had surpassed Peyton and that his numbers would show it if he ever got the weapons).

There was nothing exaggerated about how Peyton played at that point.

How much of the Pats recent upswing in points allowed is a result of Brady doing the same while being asked to similar things?

His first 10 playoff games (all w's) he was 14 TD 4 INT. In the last 14 (7-7) he's been 28-18 aka pretty comparable to what Peyton aka "the choker who just can't get it done" has done throughout his career in the playoffs. It's like the tale of two QBs with Brady's playoff career. As far as that SB goes, one game doesn't prove shyt. In that same SB Delhomme threw for 300 yds and no picks against the same Pats D that terrorized Peyton and every other elite QB of the day. Did he surpass Peyton at that point too? :heh: Not comparing Brady to Delhomme just making the point that one great performance doesn't prove anything. It's about doing it over time. And over time Brady has looked far more like Peyton in the playoffs than Mr. Doesn't Make Mistakes Super Cool Clutch that he was cast as early on and still get's cast as despite what's happened since.

Brady's first playoff game his team only scored 16 as well. I guess it was Peyton's fault that his defense wasn't capable of holding one of the top offenses and QBs of the time to 13 pts.

In that Dolphins game Peyton also put his team in position for the GW FG and the most accurate kicker ever missed a 37 yder (funny how this ALWAYS gets left out) and Lamar fukking Smith rushed for 200 yds including the game winning score. Meanwhile in Tom's second playoff game he missed a half and they didn't miss a beat on the road against the top seeded Steelers.

Why are we talking about games from 13 years ago? What about right now? What about the last 8 years? How do you explain Tom's very Peyton like 7-7 record, numerous home losses, numerous multi-pick games, numerous less than stellar performances following stellar regular seasons? If he's so much better than Peyton at getting it done at playoff time why has he not demonstrated that over the last 8 seasons. He's had talent around him (Moss, Gronk, Welker, Hernandez). They have home field ever year. But they always fall short. Sound familiar? :leon: It's not about shytting on him either because I believe they are pretty much equals its just funny to me how Tom's playoff struggles somehow get glossed over. nikkas wanna go on for days about shyt that happened before the 2nd Iraq war started but are straight up :whistle: about shyt that happened last January. :patrice:
 

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How much of the Pats recent upswing in points allowed is a result of Brady doing the same while being asked to similar things?

His first 10 playoff games (all w's) he was 14 TD 4 INT. In the last 14 (7-7) he's been 28-18 aka pretty comparable to what Peyton aka "the choker who just can't get it done" has done throughout his career in the playoffs. It's like the tale of two QBs with Brady's playoff career. As far as that SB goes, one game doesn't prove shyt. In that same SB Delhomme threw for 300 yds and no picks against the same Pats D that terrorized Peyton and every other elite QB of the day. Did he surpass Peyton at that point too? :heh: Not comparing Brady to Delhomme just making the point that one great performance doesn't prove anything. It's about doing it over time. And over time Brady has looked far more like Peyton in the playoffs than Mr. Doesn't Make Mistakes Super Cool Clutch that he was cast as early on and still get's cast as despite what's happened since.

Brady's first playoff game his team only scored 16 as well. I guess it was Peyton's fault that his defense wasn't capable of holding one of the top offenses and QBs of the time to 13 pts.

In that Dolphins game Peyton also put his team in position for the GW FG and the most accurate kicker ever missed a 37 yder (funny how this ALWAYS gets left out) and Lamar fukking Smith rushed for 200 yds including the game winning score. Meanwhile in Tom's second playoff game he
missed a half and they didn't miss a beat on the road against the top seeded Steelers.


Why are we talking about games from 13 years ago? What about right now? What about the last 8 years? How do you explain Tom's very Peyton like 7-7 record, numerous home losses, numerous multi-pick games, numerous less than stellar performances following stellar regular seasons? If he's so much better than Peyton at getting it done at playoff time why has he not demonstrated that over the last 8 seasons. He's had talent around him (Moss, Gronk, Welker, Hernandez). They have home field ever year. But they always fall short. Sound familiar? :leon: It's not about shytting on him either because I believe they are pretty much equals its just funny to me how Tom's playoff struggles somehow get glossed over. nikkas wanna go on for
days about shyt that happened before the 2nd Iraq war started but are straight up :whistle: about shyt that happened last January.

:patrice:

c/s they don't want to hear you though Brady still living off shyt from 10 years ago
 

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How much of the Pats recent upswing in points allowed is a result of Brady doing the same while being asked to similar things?

His first 10 playoff games (all w's) he was 14 TD 4 INT. In the last 14 (7-7) he's been 28-18 aka pretty comparable to what Peyton aka "the choker who just can't get it done" has done throughout his career in the playoffs. It's like the tale of two QBs with Brady's playoff career. As far as that SB goes, one game doesn't prove shyt. In that same SB Delhomme threw for 300 yds and no picks against the same Pats D that terrorized Peyton and every other elite QB of the day. Did he surpass Peyton at that point too? :heh: Not comparing Brady to Delhomme just making the point that one great performance doesn't prove anything. It's about doing it over time. And over time Brady has looked far more like Peyton in the playoffs than Mr. Doesn't Make Mistakes Super Cool Clutch that he was cast as early on and still get's cast as despite what's happened since.

Brady's first playoff game his team only scored 16 as well. I guess it was Peyton's fault that his defense wasn't capable of holding one of the top offenses and QBs of the time to 13 pts.

In that Dolphins game Peyton also put his team in position for the GW FG and the most accurate kicker ever missed a 37 yder (funny how this ALWAYS gets left out) and Lamar fukking Smith rushed for 200 yds including the game winning score. Meanwhile in Tom's second playoff game he missed a half and they didn't miss a beat on the road against the top seeded Steelers.

Why are we talking about games from 13 years ago? What about right now? What about the last 8 years? How do you explain Tom's very Peyton like 7-7 record, numerous home losses, numerous multi-pick games, numerous less than stellar performances following stellar regular seasons? If he's so much better than Peyton at getting it done at playoff time why has he not demonstrated that over the last 8 seasons. He's had talent around him (Moss, Gronk, Welker, Hernandez). They have home field ever year. But they always fall short. Sound familiar? :leon: It's not about shytting on him either because I believe they are pretty much equals its just funny to me how Tom's playoff struggles somehow get glossed over. nikkas wanna go on for days about shyt that happened before the 2nd Iraq war started but are straight up :whistle: about shyt that happened last January. :patrice:

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This is what I've been trying to tell these selective memory having clowns.
 

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Which one is it breh?
whats really hard to see. perhaps i worded props wrong. the point im trying to make is bradys success is going to be considered his and ice grill belly. mannings accomplishments arent really shared and i think you know that. you bring up mannings kicker fukk up but you overlook shyt like asante dropping an easy int that wouldve gave brady a 4th ring. see it works two ways. you can focus on a sample size playoff picture all you want but the whole pic shows brady has a winning playoff record and peyton doesnt.
 

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whats really hard to see. perhaps i worded props wrong. the point im trying to make is bradys success is going to be considered his and ice grill belly. mannings accomplishments arent really shared and i think you know that. you bring up mannings kicker fukk up but you overlook shyt like asante dropping an easy int that wouldve gave brady a 4th ring. see it works two ways. you can focus on a sample size playoff picture all you want but the whole pic shows brady has a winning playoff record and peyton doesnt.

I am not selective with my shyt. I acknowledge that Brady has had some tough breaks the last few years (with fukk ups of his own mixed in). My point is that when he "got it done" he was in a different circumstance. Pretty much everything broke his way then. I don't give him extra props for being fortunate early on and I don't shyt on Peyton for not being so fortunate. If Brady was still Mr. No Mistakes while in a boat similar to Peyton then I would call it how it is but that isn't the case.
 
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Brady can make the Al Bundy's of the world look good. And when did he have talent at the skills positions. :whoo: That said, Peyton is obviously more gifted than Brady. He's probably the most cerebral QB to ever play the game. He's damn near clairvoyant with his presnap reads.

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Such eloquent posting.





But yeah, Peyton > Brady
 
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How much of the Pats recent upswing in points allowed is a result of Brady doing the same while being asked to similar things?

His first 10 playoff games (all w's) he was 14 TD 4 INT. In the last 14 (7-7) he's been 28-18 aka pretty comparable to what Peyton aka "the choker who just can't get it done" has done throughout his career in the playoffs. It's like the tale of two QBs with Brady's playoff career. As far as that SB goes, one game doesn't prove shyt. In that same SB Delhomme threw for 300 yds and no picks against the same Pats D that terrorized Peyton and every other elite QB of the day. Did he surpass Peyton at that point too? :heh: Not comparing Brady to Delhomme just making the point that one great performance doesn't prove anything. It's about doing it over time. And over time Brady has looked far more like Peyton in the playoffs than Mr. Doesn't Make Mistakes Super Cool Clutch that he was cast as early on and still get's cast as despite what's happened since.

Brady's first playoff game his team only scored 16 as well. I guess it was Peyton's fault that his defense wasn't capable of holding one of the top offenses and QBs of the time to 13 pts.

In that Dolphins game Peyton also put his team in position for the GW FG and the most accurate kicker ever missed a 37 yder (funny how this ALWAYS gets left out) and Lamar fukking Smith rushed for 200 yds including the game winning score. Meanwhile in Tom's second playoff game he missed a half and they didn't miss a beat on the road against the top seeded Steelers.

Why are we talking about games from 13 years ago? What about right now? What about the last 8 years? How do you explain Tom's very Peyton like 7-7 record, numerous home losses, numerous multi-pick games, numerous less than stellar performances following stellar regular seasons? If he's so much better than Peyton at getting it done at playoff time why has he not demonstrated that over the last 8 seasons. He's had talent around him (Moss, Gronk, Welker, Hernandez). They have home field ever year. But they always fall short. Sound familiar? :leon: It's not about shytting on him either because I believe they are pretty much equals its just funny to me how Tom's playoff struggles somehow get glossed over. nikkas wanna go on for days about shyt that happened before the 2nd Iraq war started but are straight up :whistle: about shyt that happened last January. :patrice:


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