Rollin in this 64 (years) w/ kneecaps & draft picks on deck: The 2021 Detroit Lions Official Thread

[winb83]

4Qs with Dane Brugler: Could the Lions afford to pass on EDGE early?

Drafting Willis would start the clock on Holmes and Campbell, officially. If you take a project QB that early - or trade down for him - you’re tying the entire rebuild to him. I just can’t co-sign that. I’d rather get everything in place, keep Goff, and then find a QB next draft when we once again have two 1st round picks. You can package them to move up. Rams aren’t gonna repeat and given how many players they’re gonna lose to FA/retirement, they might not make the playoffs.

Take the best edge rusher available and best remaining WR with these two picks. Then just build the defense and get another starting TE. Lots of draft picks, this could really be our moment to secure a successful 2-4 year window.

They're keeping Goff. He was serviceable in the latter half of last season. They have no reason not to keep him.

 

[winb83]

2021 NFL rookie grades, NFC North: New Lions brass aced first draft; optimism in Bears' eternal QB quest
In Brad we trust.

 

[IrateMastermind]

2021 NFL rookie grades, NFC North: New Lions brass aced first draft; optimism in Bears' eternal QB quest
In Brad we trust.

somebody more clever than me wanna start the off-season/ next-season thread?

 

[Piff Perkins]

Lions send 7 reps, including Brad Holmes, to Kayvon Thibodeaux’s pro day

If we don't take Thibs it'll be because Brad wasn't sold. I'm fine with that. Let's see how it goes. Every year there are players who get slandered by ESPN and the draft media regime. It's Thibs this year. The talent is worth the number one pick, I'm not letting people talk me out of it because "bubububu he has interests out of football."

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Lions send 7 reps, including Brad Holmes, to Kayvon Thibodeaux’s pro day

If we don't take Thibs it'll be because Brad wasn't sold. I'm fine with that. Let's see how it goes. Every year there are players who get slandered by ESPN and the draft media regime. It's Thibs this year. The talent is worth the number one pick, I'm not letting people talk me out of it because "bubububu he has interests out of football."

It kills me that the combine has so much weight on it. Like, did the last two years not matter? That's why I hope Jacksonville takes Hutchinson so this will be ours. Some of the idiots on 97.1 make no sense about him.

 

[eastside313]

Give me Jameson Williams. They need a true #1 wideout. Both Super Bowl teams had one (Rams had two); the Chiefs, Bills and 49ers had one as well.

None of them was drafted in the first rd. Damn sure not traded up for in the first rd while being injured. Everybody falling in love with offensive players again when the lions need 2-3 starting linebackers and defensive backs and a d tackle. And y’all wouldn’t mind a qb with the next pick.

Williams better be jamar chase level of good to justify this trade.

 

[Piff Perkins]

None of them was drafted in the first rd. Damn sure not traded up for in the first rd while being injured. Everybody falling in love with offensive players again when the lions need 2-3 starting linebackers and defensive backs and a d tackle. And y’all wouldn’t mind a qb with the next pick.

Williams better be jamar chase level of good to justify this trade.

Jamar Chase was drafted in the first round. As was OBJ.

Last year made it clear this is about who you have at QB and what weapons do you have. Williams is the best WR in the draft and the faster player. We gave up minimal resources - and won the trade with the Vikings - to get him. That’s a clear net positive.

Lions need game changers. We got two yesterday.

 

[IrateMastermind]

None of them was drafted in the first rd. Damn sure not traded up for in the first rd while being injured. Everybody falling in love with offensive players again when the lions need 2-3 starting linebackers and defensive backs and a d tackle. And y’all wouldn’t mind a qb with the next pick.

Williams better be jamar chase level of good to justify this trade.

Williams doesn’t need to be the best receiver in the draft after being the 4th selected in the round. He fills a need and this team isn’t in win now mode. Fill the roster with the best player available that fills a need and keep it moving. We have the rest of the draft for defense.

 

[the next guy]

You guys will be better next year.

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Feels so weird to seeing our gm complemented two drafts in a row. To hear the Lions celebrated at various sports news sources.

I live in Northwest Indiana so this is Bears country. Usually when I wear Lions gear, people have jokes. Those that follow football, gave us some props yesterday. I felt good enough about yesterday to rep on casual Friday today.

I put that on my board because I'm not with moody people bringing their attitudes into my office.

 

[eastside313]

Jamar Chase was drafted in the first round. As was OBJ.

Last year made it clear this is about who you have at QB and what weapons do you have. Williams is the best WR in the draft and the faster player. We gave up minimal resources - and won the trade with the Vikings - to get him. That’s a clear net positive.

Lions need game changers. We got two yesterday.

don’t forget about the defenses of those teams. U know that mattered too. Rams wasn’t sniffin no super bowl without that defense.

don’t be so quick to talk about winning the trade with the Vikings before any of these players step on the field. Especially if the Vikings restock that defense from this trade.

yeah i was talkin about everybody except chase. Obj ain’t on that level.

 

[eastside313]

Williams doesn’t need to be the best receiver in the draft after being the 4th selected in the round. He fills a need and this team isn’t in win now mode. Fill the roster with the best player available that fills a need and keep it moving. We have the rest of the draft for defense.

Williams need to be an all pro receiver to justify this trade. Just being good they could’ve stayed at 32 and 34 and plugged in another starter on defense and still got a good receiver.

i hope he is wonderful and i don’t have anything against him as a player, I’m just saying i wouldn’t trade up to take the 4th receiver and he injured when u got the best d tackle and best safety sitting right there and they both fill needs too.

 

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[Regular_P]

Williams need to be an all pro receiver to justify this trade. Just being good they could’ve stayed at 32 and 34 and plugged in another starter on defense and still got a good receiver.

i hope he is wonderful and i don’t have anything against him as a player, I’m just saying i wouldn’t trade up to take the 4th receiver and he injured when u got the best d tackle and best safety sitting right there and they both fill needs too.

How can you not like the value of that trade? They traded up 20 spots in the first round AND got pick #46 while giving up 32, 34 and 66. That's a home run deal to get an ELITE talent. Williams would have been a top 5-10 pick if he didn't get injured.

 

[djthegreat88]

Williams need to be an all pro receiver to justify this trade. Just being good they could’ve stayed at 32 and 34 and plugged in another starter on defense and still got a good receiver.

i hope he is wonderful and i don’t have anything against him as a player, I’m just saying i wouldn’t trade up to take the 4th receiver and he injured when u got the best d tackle and best safety sitting right there and they both fill needs too.




And now they done drafted another injured player

Lions gave up a third and two pick swaps to move up 20 spots in rd one. That is nothing. Bears gave up their first this year to move up 9 spots for Fields last year

With the run on WR Lions made good decision to not sit pat. No comparison between Jameson Williams and a prospect like Christian Watson at 32 and 34. Only reason he was 4th was because of ACL.

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

I'm not mad at the Jameson pick. We got great value there.

 

[eastside313]

How can you not like the value of that trade? They traded up 20 spots in the first round AND got pick #46 while giving up 32, 34 and 66. That's a home run deal to get an ELITE talent. Williams would have been a top 5-10 pick if he didn't get injured.

Speed at receiver is growing on trees now. Remember the combine times this year. Everybody fast. Jordan Davis combination of size and strength and speed is not though. I didn’t say anything about the value of the trade. I said if I’m trading up to damn near the top 10 it ain’t for the 4th player drafted from no position.


You drop Davis on that line with hutch and that improves everybody on defense.

 

[djthegreat88]

Speed at receiver is growing on trees now. Remember the combine times this year. Everybody fast. Jordan Davis combination of size and strength and speed is not though. I didn’t say anything about the value of the trade. I said if I’m trading up to damn near the top 10 it ain’t for the 4th player drafted from no position.


You drop Davis on that line with hutch and that improves everybody on defense.

Jameson Williams type speed does not grow on trees. Go and look how he destroyed Georgia in SEC championship game. Jordan Davis is a project that is a two down NT right now

 

[eastside313]

Lions gave up a third and two pick swaps to move up 20 spots in rd one. That is nothing. Bears gave up their first this year to move up 9 spots for Fields last year

With the run on WR Lions made good decision to not sit pat. No comparison between Jameson Williams and a prospect like Christian Watson at 32 and 34. Only reason he was 4th was because of ACL.

Super bowl caliber organizations chiefs and packers who needed receivers more than the lions take theirs in the 2nd.

and the lions trade up to take yet another first rd receiver.

 

[djthegreat88]

Super bowl caliber organizations chiefs and packers who needed receivers more than the lions take theirs in the 2nd.

and the lions trade up to take yet another first rd receiver.

Those two teams have hall of fame caliber Qbs who make okay receivers look better than they are. Lets not act like Bengals just didn’t go to superbowl after after drafting Chase last year

 

[Piff Perkins]

Those two teams have hall of fame caliber Qbs who make okay receivers look better than they are. Lets not act like Bengals just didn’t go to superbowl after after drafting Chase last year

People hating on the WR thing always ignore Chase. If you’re trading up for a WR like we did you’re saying you expect the guy to be one of the best receivers in the league. If you’re right and end up with a Chase like player…you do it. End of story.

It was clear that the top talent WRs were being taken fast. We’ve tried the “pick the serviceable guy” thing for years and haven’t won. Might as well go for a home run for once.

 

[Regular_P]

Speed at receiver is growing on trees now. Remember the combine times this year. Everybody fast. Jordan Davis combination of size and strength and speed is not though. I didn’t say anything about the value of the trade. I said if I’m trading up to damn near the top 10 it ain’t for the 4th player drafted from no position.


You drop Davis on that line with hutch and that improves everybody on defense.

Justin Jefferson was the fifth WR taken in 2020.

 

[eastside313]

Jameson Williams type speed does not grow on trees. Go and look how he destroyed Georgia in SEC championship game. Jordan Davis is a project that is a two down NT right now

Yeah big difference in a 4.23 and a 4.30

Davis floor is a two down nt.

 

[eastside313]

Justin Jefferson was the fifth WR taken in 2020.

Ok

 

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I know the Achilles injury was devastating but I still believe Aaron Glenn can develop him to be above average to borderline probowl CB