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I am with Trump mainly because he isn't being bought or a part of the establishment. That speaks volume. Nothing is free and Hillary was recently in bed with private prisons until Sanders exposed her and she stopped taking their money. At least Trump dares to say something different and real versus these by the book keep the current structure going robots. Reaganomics in a nutshell, stabilized inflation. It fukks up some stuff but it didn't destroy everyone's wealth. If neither Trump or Sanders gets nominated or wins, the narrative is out and people are disconnecting from the matrix. No more pushing unimportant issues like gay marriages. The president-elect and congress have to start back working for the people and not special-interest groups and corporations.
Just cause someone isn't part of the establishment doesn't mean they will be good. Trump hasnt put forth any reforms in the way of campaign finance or other big issue and he flip flops as much as Hillary.His views on police are wrong and based entirely around lies (crime is at record lows). His plan for the economy is garbage- tariffs and other anti-competitive ancient measures won't do shyt but jack up prices and kill more American jobs. He's also a bigot, xenophobe and most importantly completely unable to accept criticism or outside input. I agree that the system is broken but you should demand more from whoever you are hoping will fix it. Trump is not the guy
 

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Just cause someone isn't part of the establishment doesn't mean they will be good. Trump hasnt put forth any reforms in the way of campaign finance or other big issue and he flip flops as much as Hillary.His views on police are wrong and based entirely around lies (crime is at record lows). His plan for the economy is garbage- tariffs and other anti-competitive ancient measures won't do shyt but jack up prices and kill more American jobs. He's also a bigot, xenophobe and most importantly completely unable to accept criticism or outside input. I agree that the system is broken but you should demand more from whoever you are hoping will fix it. Trump is not the guy
Nope, it doesn't guarantee good but we'd be surprised. People who are donating means more of the same. Flip-flopping is more honest than recorded and predictable speeches. Speaking from the heart then revising what was said is more human than perfect and deadbolt. Tariffs would affect the economy but not much because ma businesses will get creative to compete. Idc about latinos or arabs so that bigot shyt doesn't resonate with me. No one likes criticism, it's called being human. He's never been a politician so sorry he isn't trained and polished like you're use to.
 

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I'm an immigrant :yeshrug:

Obama has made zero inroads on gun restrictions over the last 7 years. Just lip service. Sanders comes from a pro gun state and has voted as much. Hillary is a crap shoot. So that's a wash. Not to mention Dems supposedly are bad for guns (despite no changes over Obama's admin legally), but is taking on the dirty LEOs that prompt you to feel the need for protection in the first place. GOP meanwhile has proudly shyt on BLM; Trump wants to give those dirty cops MORE power and the right in general has played their general victim blaming card. How do you see that issue getting any better with the GOP?

Not sure what your implication is on the economy. Do you think the GOP will do a better job, when the poorest states and counties in the country are deeply red, Reaganomics/"trickle down economics" has been an abject failure and the GOP is just as in bed with big business as Hillary?

Like I said breh this election is merely a choice between 2 evils. I think Hillary is full of shyt and have said as much. The Dems have perpetually failed on the economy, just like the GOP, and I agree that that should be the top priority. The only real difference between the two comes down to civil rights and you have to be an idiot to think the GOP is looking to advance that cause in any capacity.
You're a LEGAL immigrant. The Dems are too weak on immigration IMO...but word is, Obama has been shipping them out...so who knows
 

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Nope, it doesn't guarantee good but we'd be surprised. People who are donating means more of the same. Flip-flopping is more honest than recorded and predictable speeches. Speaking from the heart then revising what was said is more human than perfect and deadbolt. Tariffs would affect the economy but not much because ma businesses will get creative to compete. Idc about latinos or arabs so that bigot shyt doesn't resonate with me. No one likes criticism, it's called being human. He's never been a politician so sorry he isn't trained and polished like you're use to.
What use is "speaking from the heart" when the person speaking is an idiot?

And there is not liking criticism, and then absolutely refusing to admit fault or entertain alternative points of view.

Bigots aren't just against immigrants. Systematic racism is systematic bigotry.

W/e. You are fully entrenched in the Drumpf campaign so there's no convincing you. You brought up police brutality and when I posted a link about Trump looking to intensify it you stopped talking about it. And you have an excuse for all of his failures that you have no problem dumping on "establishment" candidates for. W/e man.
 

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What use is "speaking from the heart" when the person speaking is an idiot?

And there is not liking criticism, and then absolutely refusing to admit fault or entertain alternative points of view.

Bigots aren't just against immigrants. Systematic racism is systematic bigotry.

W/e. You are fully entrenched in the Drumpf campaign so there's no convincing you. You brought up police brutality and when I posted a link about Trump looking to intensify it you stopped talking about it. And you have an excuse for all of his failures that you have no problem dumping on "establishment" candidates for. W/e man.
What link? I overlooked it. From the heart means something, whatever is being said isn't scripted. I watch TV shows for that. I want to know where these people truly stand. I didn't insult anyone but using Drumpf surname as a slur is sure proving your point of left being above bigotry and idiocracy. He's an idiot? How exactly?
 

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What link? I overlooked it. From the heart means something, whatever is being said isn't scripted. I watch TV shows for that. I want to know where these people truly stand. I didn't insult anyone but using Drumpf surname as a slur is sure proving your point of left being above bigotry and idiocracy. He's an idiot? How exactly?
If I explained, you would "overlook" that as well. No point in continuing this convo.
 
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