ughDamn they low key called this nikka SPINELESS
Rondo out indefinitely after suffering "back injury" in Game 2
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Exactly
Hasn't been a great year for rondo by any means but I wouldn't count him out
They are scapegoating rondo while ignoring that dirk is probably the worst player in the league right now defensively
Rondo needs the ball and shooters around him, he got neither of those things in Dallas
All that shyt is irrelevant to the fact that he's a negative for the team right now. And that's the point. He's getting none of the blame though he's heavily at fault.People trying to blame Dirk like he ain't almost 40 and took a pay cut
....he is teflon in Dallas
This is probably the biggest thing to keep in mind during all this Rondo-bashing, which is all the craze on the Coli:
1. Rondo didn't trade himself to Dallas...
2. he didn’t assemble the roster around him...
3. it’s not his fault that Dirk Nowitzki has turned into the worst defender in the league (which is saying a lot)...
4. it's not his fault that Dallas lacks reliable outside threats (that actually play extended minutes) besides Dirk and (the currently injured) Parsons...
5. it's not his fault that Carlisle has failed to coach this team beyond the first round since winning that ring in 2011...
5. it’s not Rondo’s fault that he was paired with Monta Ellis--another ball-dominant guard that struggles shooting from the perimeter...
While certain things Rondo has struggled with were in his control, a lot of his problems stem from what’s around him. Fit matters in the NBA more than it probably gets credit for. Rondo is just the latest victim of finding a poor one.
1. Rondo didn't trade himself to Dallas...
2. he didn’t assemble the roster around him...
3. it’s not his fault that Dirk Nowitzki has turned into the worst defender in the league (which is saying a lot)...
4. it's not his fault that Dallas lacks reliable outside threats (that actually play extended minutes) besides Dirk and (the currently injured) Parsons...
5. it's not his fault that Carlisle has failed to coach this team beyond the first round since winning that ring in 2011...
5. it’s not Rondo’s fault that he was paired with Monta Ellis--another ball-dominant guard that struggles shooting from the perimeter...
While certain things Rondo has struggled with were in his control, a lot of his problems stem from what’s around him. Fit matters in the NBA more than it probably gets credit for. Rondo is just the latest victim of finding a poor one.
1. Ok.
2. Ok.
3. True but it is his fault that the offensive execution, the one that relied heavily on ball movement and weak-side movement is stifled because Rondo is such a non-scoring threat that he isn't respected very much. This makes the offense harder for everyone else.
4. It sounds like you're saying that Rondo needs a very particular type of cast around him or he looks like an average PG. Rondo led teams have NEVER been good offensively because he's not a good offensive player.
5. Dallas blew up their team to get another big signing, after their championship, and Dirk was injured then they ran into a Thunder team with 3 top 5 players in the league and lost against the team that went on to win the championship.
See, you do understand context and how things are difficult for players outside of their control but you're not willing to make those claims for other players.
Rondo gets "a pass" but CP3 is a loser because he's spent his entire career in a horribly strong West. You bring up Dirk's lack of defense which Robdo can't control but it's just BS excuses Blake and Jordan were getting manhandled by Gasol and Z-Bo and then Blake was injured but CP3 was playing amazingly. CP3 knocking down game winners but it's his fault they lost.
Has nothing to do with that point but I'll bite: it's not his fault the Mavs brought him in knowing full well what kind of player he is.
Yes Rondo needs a particular fit, as do most players. That's what I concluded in my initial post.
Stop the lie that Rondo-led teams have never been good offensively. I know you're going to bring out the metrics but as I told you in that other thread, metrics are meaningless after a certain point. Especially in Rondo's case because he led the Celtics deep in the playoffs and to the Eastern Conference finals against the Heat (which the Cs ALMOST won) in 2012. The Cs lost that particular season not because of their offense but because they couldn't stop LeBron. That has nothing to do with lack of offense. Your argument has been deaded.
That's on Dallas, not Rondo. Blame Cuban.
I don't know why you're dragging CP0 into this discussion, but ok....
To most basketball followers, CP0 is an NBA superstar and the best PG in the league (or at least that's been conventional thinking for the past decade) compared to Rondo who's been in the top 3 discussion but was never widely regarded as the best. Moreover, people argue that CP0 virtually has no flaws in his game where they're quick to knock Rondo for lack of shooting, free throws, etc. The problem with CP0 is that people will blindly call him point gawd, HOFer, a superstar but then those same people will give him a pass season after season when he fails to take over games in crunchtime like a true superstar would (see: Kobe, D-Wade, Paul Pierce). The problem is amplified when you consider the fact that he's had talent surrounding him throughout his entire career.
And Clippers/CP0 stans need to make up their collective mind: Is Blake an MVP candidate/future HOFer
a liability? If Blake is the former, CP0 should learn to play alongside and complement Blake's style. If Blake's the latter, then CP0 needs to man up and lead his team. Y'all can't keep changing up the narrative to give CP0 a pass.Moreover, how CP0's teammates do in matchups with their opponents shouldn't affect CP0's game is he's a true superstar, as advertised. CP0 should step up and lead by asserting himself more instead of worrying about his stat line if it's apparent that his teammates are not as effective as they should be. He needs to take a page out of Kobe's book.
It is written.
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Gil Scott-Heroin
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They're meaningless after a certain point? Would that certain point be as soon as Rondo's painted in a bad light? Shameless.
Columbo
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Rondo fan boys still exist in 2015?
Muhfukkaz is on here typin essays to defend that little sh*t
Muhfukkaz is on here typin essays to defend that little sh*t
I have just been sitting back in chill mode watching everybody shyt all over Rondo. It's pretty fukking sad really.
Here's the deal. Rondo is going to be in a situation next year that works for him, of his choosing, and will be back in the discussion. Half the folks in here pouring jelly all over themselves, happy as fukk because Rondo is being looked at in a bad light and he is getting scapegoated in Dallas (as if it justifies what they have been saying). At the end of the day, this team wasn't a good fit, Carlisle, though I understand is the coach and wants everybody to do exactly what he says all the time, just isn't the type of personality that is willing to get "back talked", we all know the types that are "right way, wrong way, doesn't matter, my way or no way". I get it, but that doesn't make how he has treated Rondo this year right. Rondo was the floor leader on a team with hall of famers, and a pretty good coach, and they completely pushed his style in the direction of "we want you to run this team" and then he was alone in Boston, coming off of injuries, and in a rebuilding situation with a new coach, and he was the floor leader of the team, the play caller. He gets traded to Dallas, and Carlisle is like " you have no freedom here to make any decisions, if you don't like it, bounce". What the fukk is the kid supposed to do?
I hope it works out next year and he ends up in a situation where he can be the leader again, with a coach that he can collaborate with, instead of a fukking dikkhead. At least they can blame it on Rondo this year, but moving forward, they can't use that one again.
Oh yeah, and I hope that fakkit Cuban opens his fukking mouth about this, too. He went out and did this, and Carlisle sabotaged his decision, lets see if the guy has the balls to humble his coach after the season is over following the sweep.
Here's the deal. Rondo is going to be in a situation next year that works for him, of his choosing, and will be back in the discussion. Half the folks in here pouring jelly all over themselves, happy as fukk because Rondo is being looked at in a bad light and he is getting scapegoated in Dallas (as if it justifies what they have been saying). At the end of the day, this team wasn't a good fit, Carlisle, though I understand is the coach and wants everybody to do exactly what he says all the time, just isn't the type of personality that is willing to get "back talked", we all know the types that are "right way, wrong way, doesn't matter, my way or no way". I get it, but that doesn't make how he has treated Rondo this year right. Rondo was the floor leader on a team with hall of famers, and a pretty good coach, and they completely pushed his style in the direction of "we want you to run this team" and then he was alone in Boston, coming off of injuries, and in a rebuilding situation with a new coach, and he was the floor leader of the team, the play caller. He gets traded to Dallas, and Carlisle is like " you have no freedom here to make any decisions, if you don't like it, bounce". What the fukk is the kid supposed to do?
I hope it works out next year and he ends up in a situation where he can be the leader again, with a coach that he can collaborate with, instead of a fukking dikkhead. At least they can blame it on Rondo this year, but moving forward, they can't use that one again.
Oh yeah, and I hope that fakkit Cuban opens his fukking mouth about this, too. He went out and did this, and Carlisle sabotaged his decision, lets see if the guy has the balls to humble his coach after the season is over following the sweep.
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Gil Scott-Heroin
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that 99% of folk have finally woken up.
duckbutta
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Harden dropped 40 on em huh...
I wonder what was different about this game than the other 2...
If only Dallas had a perimeter defender with some balls and some passion to play Harden nose to nose...
Instead they getting 100 points dropped on them like it's nothing...
IN THE 3RD QUARTER :yeah ok:
I wonder what was different about this game than the other 2...
If only Dallas had a perimeter defender with some balls and some passion to play Harden nose to nose...
Instead they getting 100 points dropped on them like it's nothing...
IN THE 3RD QUARTER :yeah ok:
Gil Scott-Heroin
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You mean if they didn't trade for Rondo in the first instance, and used Crowder to defend Harden while still maintaining their #1 ranked offense?
