Rory ask Mal and Mecca what are the bad beats Nas picks and they couldn’t name one

[DillaTUDE]

It's an earned reputation, no excuse for an album solely produced by [a still prime] Kanye (Nasir) to be so lacking in quality—especially when just two months prior Push was able to curate an AOTY contender working with that very same man.

And going back to God's Son, you can even make the same argument as the Pusha T one that Lakey da Kid (who was in his camp around the time) chose better Alchemist beats for The 41st Side ("Crush Linen", "Let Em Hang", "We Gon Buck") than what Nas ended up using on his own project. That's inexcusable—"Mastermind" is the last type of beat you would feature from a producer who was shaking up the industry with bangers like "We Gonna Make It", "Definition of a Don", "Black Magic", etc...

Look at the producers Nas worked with in any era beyond Illmatic and It Was Written—you'll find a long list of lesser-known contemporaries, without his cachet or influence, who managed to get classic beats from the very same producers that were giving Nas straight duds.

And I see no one mentioned The Firm album? How does Will Smith manage to pick better Trackmasters beats for his project (Big Willie Style) than you? It's a consistent theme throughout his career outside of his first two albums.

 

[Supa]

Can't believe no one mentioned this:


The problem wasn't just with Nas's beat selection it's that other rappers at the time were getting way better production. It was inexcusable when he could've called Alchemist, Hav, Premier, or anyone reputable and got fire.

The dip in quality from the production of Illmatic and It Was Written was noticable. Then you hear the beats on Lost Tapes and it's confusing as to why the songs on his albums were so inconsistent. It didn't make sense how the same guy who chose some of the best beats in history was picking average to below average beats.

Even when the beats weren't bad a lot were just mid or didn't fit him. Those cheap sounding, electronic, tin can beats were too common.

 

[Figaro]

I'm not in the group of people thinking Nas picks bad beats but this song definitely made me question when he announced KD 1 with Hit Boy.



I think i can make something better on FL Studio today & I've never attempted to make a beat in my life.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Can't believe no one mentioned this:


The problem wasn't just with Nas's beat selection it's that other rappers at the time were getting way better production. It was inexcusable when he could've called Alchemist, Hav, Premier, or anyone reputable and got fire.

The dip in quality from the production of Illmatic and It Was Written was noticable. Then you hear the beats on Lost Tapes and it's confusing as to why the songs on his albums were so inconsistent. It didn't make sense how the same guy who chose some of the best beats in history was picking average to below average beats.

Even when the beats weren't bad a lot were just mid or didn't fit him. Those cheap sounding, electronic, tin can beats were too common.

To me the Nas beat thing is moreso about vision than anything else. In 1998/1999, Jay was building the in-house production crew that would change rap over the next decade. DMX was crafting his own sound, working with Swizz and Dame Grease and Irv. Wayne had Mannie Fresh. Flip side Nas was veering between following what's hot (Dame Grease, whose shyt largely clashed with Nas vocally IMO) and seemingly selecting shyt at random. The end result (I Am) was a pretty standard album for the time production wise.

 

[L. Deezy]

I really can go thru any rappers catalogue and pick trash beats.. stupid as thread

 

[Mike Wins]

I really can go thru any rappers catalogue and pick trash beats.. stupid as thread

Jay rapped on a bunch of weak beats 97-00, barely get mentioned. I guess nobody listened to Vol. 2 or Vol. 3 in 20 years.

DMX Flesh Of My Flesh is basically a combination of the weakest beats on I Am and Nastradamus and it's like that album don't even exist.

Busta Rhymes supposed to be one of the GOAT beat pickers but had a bunch of them Casio duds 98-00, again, never mentioned.

But dudes still cling to The Cross like their life depend on it.

 

[RAX 010]

Lame ass show

 

[ThirdAct]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The narrative does not hold up

 

[Mike Wins]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Some of the amazing beats his contemporaries rhymed over

 

[ThirdAct]

Some of the amazing beats his contemporaries rhymed over

WTF is that Busta beat

And I still don't get why Jay wasted good rhymes over that flute beat

Swizz was a menace to eardrums everywhere...I fukk with Ain't No Way though

 

[Art Barr]

No it's not

Jarreau of rap is one of the worst records ever.
Thr problem with nas is.
nas, no longer makes connotates a dope nas records.

I have not heard a dope nas record.
that sounds like nas since on the real.
The only time nas worked outside of the sweet spot of nas.
Was the one obscure swiss production of salute me or the general.
Which may have only been on vinyl..if i rememver right.

That is how long and far back in discography. One would have to go.
to name the last good nas record.
As nas is lacking in records.
after illmatic.
to spin in personal listening.
after illmatic and those two records. The general and one the real, respectfully.

Nas's issue with production.
is nas is overproduced since iww. Where nas completely becomes unlistenable.
Being a commercial overproduced construct.

Same as with souls of mischief.

These two groups of artist have overproduced production. In a medium. where they were never.
supposed to be over produced.

That is the issue with nas.

Post iww,....
Especially nas's discography post iww.
that tries to appease the prison industrial economy based ideal. As well as pop construct idea of commercial rap.


Nas does not work in that context.
To the point. The fans who ignore this. Can not name you.
one record.
as good as on the real.
Post illmatic.

I would challenge them to post their post illmatic playlist. That i know they do not spin nowhere.
Plus i know they are johnny come lately stans. As they missed illmatic being an actual tape. That rocked every jeep, hatchback and whip. the spring to summer to fall to winter of 1994 to 1995.

Oh and miss me with the house duck, slash wannabe gangsta rnb crowd. As y'all just culture thieves who played house music in yo whip before 1995.
Who rocked rayon and chiffon shirts. So miss me with the everybody is/was hiphop toy headfake eight mile lie nikkaz like to front about. When they were never there.


Sohh what is this nas dope song playlist.
post minus ether, nas is, large professor production, or a bite of stray bullet

I will wait.

Like the two pages of this thread. With no song submissions to dispute the premise of this thread.


Art Barr


What are these dope nas songs you nikka have post iww. Without ether?

An inquring ear wants to see and hear this playlist.

As i know it does not exist.
It is imaginary.
Like nas records being good.
post, on the real.

 

[Lord Beasley]

Ether is a wack ass fukking beat dawg

Y'all gotta chill with this shyt

 

[Reptile]

Y'all gotta chill with this shyt

nikka fukk on somewhere that beat whack as fukk them cheap ass staccatos with no reverb, wack ass snare sound like somebody hitting the bottom of a cup then they had the nerve to add a mark tree to make it sound beautiful and opulent FOH nikka that beat is GARBAGE fukking generic ass beat

 

[Reptile]

The beat is unique and hits hard

How the fukk does hit hard? Any nothing hitting nikka the drums are in reverse theres no punch at all. Dumb nikkas dikkriding saying anything and looking stupid @Lord Beasley this yo fault nikka. Im holding you accountable.

 

[King Sun]

Nas picking bad beats is an old jigga stan myth.