Go straight 2 hellWhen we win it all y’all gonna be hurt.
Jayden Daniels better than burrow In my opinion.
I got a legit laugh out of this post
Round Robin: Allen, Burrow, Lamar...
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I got a legit laugh out of this post
Yep
When it’s time to win. Pat makes it happen
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Then this
What are we doing? Lol
250 pass yards , 2 tds a game when you divide that up… what are YOU doing posting that as if its great?
Thats the definition of mediocre stats
ReturnOfJudah
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thanks
Carson has one of the most bizarre careers I can remember
Lamar: Rushing record on top of the passing numbers this year is too much.
Allen
Burrow
I'm not a big believer in counting team accomplishments (wins, playoffs record, Superbowl appearances). I've seen Allen lose a playoff game despite playing amazing.
That being said, Lamar has to turn up this postseason.
Allen
Burrow
I'm not a big believer in counting team accomplishments (wins, playoffs record, Superbowl appearances). I've seen Allen lose a playoff game despite playing amazing.
That being said, Lamar has to turn up this postseason.
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Those are essentially Josh Allen's stats this season who's a frontrunner for MVP250 pass yards , 2 tds a game when you divide that up… what are YOU doing posting that as if its great?
Thats the definition of mediocre stats
Saying Burrow is the fourth best QB isn't "hating".
1. I can't put anyone above Mahomes right now. Whether or not he looks better or worse than Lamar, Allen, and Burrow this season doesn't matter to me for that. I have him at the top until proven otherwise.
2. There is no doubt that Lamar and Allen have had less to work with in terms of weapons than Burrow in their careers so far. I'm not knocking Burrow for having Chase and Higgins, but Lamar and Allen haven't had that luxury. Allen had Diggs, but not two #1 WR's and a Joe Mixon when he was there. Not knocking Burrow, but it makes what the other two have done statistically impressive.
3. I know you and some others will probably throw some statistical chart out here for this comment, but I've said this for years. Joe Burrow has a propensity to take some HORRIBLE sacks, and that can't always be put on the offensive-line. It's almost like clockwork that he is bound to take a few horrible sacks. He doesn't have the ability to get away like Lamar and Allen. I have seen Lamar take some terrible ones too, but it seems like when it matters most, Burrow takes the worst sacks. It's like Deshaun Watson early in his career.
4. This is the separator for me. Lamar and Allen can make plays that Joe Burrow just can't. Their ability to move and throw on the run and near the sideline is something only them and maybe Mahomes can do. Again, that's not a knock on Burrow, but just a trait that elevates those two above him.
Lamar needs to show up in the playoffs. With that said, Burrow had one playoff run where he had 5 TD's and 2 INT's in four games. Not awful, unlike the amount of sacks he took. He can't keep living off that one run and some great numbers with elite weapons.
Josh Allen stats are barely top 10… so comparing one mediocre stat line to another doesnt really do much here
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murksiderock
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Nice time to update this! I'll first say that if doing it today, only the here and now, Allen is a better player than Mahomes, and Lamar was better than Mahomes in 2023 and 2024.
Right now its
1 Allen
2 Mahomes
3 Lamar
4 Burrow
However from a historical, career-long sense, its clear that Mahomes is still #1 by a sizable margin. Also from a historical sense, Burrow is #4 on this list pretty comfortably, he can no longer get the benefit of the doubt over the other two guys when he's missed the playoffs 3 straight years.
Super Bowl
Burrow 0-1
Allen/Lamar 0
AFC Championship
Burrow 1-1
Allen 0-2
Lamar 0-1
Playoffs
Burrow 5-2 (.714)
Allen 8-7 (.533)
Lamar 3-5 (.375)
Regular Season
Lamar .710 (76-31), 12.1 wins/Per17
Allen .693 (88-39), 11.8 wins/Per17
Burrow .558 (43-33-1), 9.5 wins/Per17
Division Champ
Allen 5x
Lamar 3x
Burrow 2x
Accolade Check
Lamar 2x MVP, 3x 1st Team All-Pro, 4x Pro Bowl, '19 pass TD leader, '24 passer rating leader
Allen '24 MVP, 2x 2nd Team All-Pro, 4x Pro Bowl
Burrow 2x CPOY, 2x Pro Bowl, '21 comp% leader, '24 pass yards leader, '24 pass TD leader
Per17 Stat Check
(passing)
Burrow 4594 yards, 35-11 TD/int, 68.5% comp, 7.4 ypa, 101.1 passer rating
Allen 3998 yards, 29-12 TD/int, 64% comp, 7.4 ypa, 94.4 passer rating
Lamar 3313 yards, 27-8 TD/int, 64.8% comp, 7.8 ypa, 102.2 passer rating
(rushing)
Lamar 956 yards, 5 TD
Allen 627 yards, 10 TD
Burrow 187 yards, 3 TD
Playoff Stat Check
Allen 261 ypg, 5.4-to-1.1 TD/int ratio, 66.5% comp, 7.3 ypa, 100 passer rating; 51.1 ypg, 9 TD
Burrow 260.9 ypg, 3.6-to-1.6 TD/int ratio, 67.3% comp, 7.3 ypa, 93.8 passer rating; 14.4 rush ypg, 1 TD
Lamar 219.1 ypg, 4.1-to-2.9 TD/int ratio, 60.6% comp, 7.3 ypa, 84.6 passer rating; 80.1 rush ypg, 3 TD
ReturnOfJudah
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Burrow killing these bums. The rest of front runners that choke when the lights are bright
Super Bowl
Burrow 0-1
Allen/Lamar 0
AFC Championship
Burrow 1-1
Allen 0-2
Lamar 0-1
Playoffs
Burrow 5-2 (.714)
Allen 8-7 (.533)
Lamar 3-5 (.375)
Super Bowl
Burrow 0-1
Allen/Lamar 0
AFC Championship
Burrow 1-1
Allen 0-2
Lamar 0-1
Playoffs
Burrow 5-2 (.714)
Allen 8-7 (.533)
Lamar 3-5 (.375)
Allen should have 53.95
While Lamar should have 98.33 (+bias against dual-threat QBs)
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