Rumored Sales: Kanye West 325-350k J. Cole 225-250k Mac Miller 80-85k.

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Donald Trump wasn't on Blue Slide Park.

Also, his high ass first week sales were a direct cause of fans meeting a certain amount of preorders. The 2nd week, Blue Slide Park PLUMMETED.

This album just had 1 single really (S.D.S.). He had more singles off Macadelic than this, and that was a mixtape.

Let's put it like this: The Heist did 78K the first week. Mac's projected to top that. What's gonna separate Macklemore from Mac Miller is that Macklemore has incredible staying power on the charts with the singles he has.

But this is Mac's second big album. He should be doing better than Macklemore's first big album. But also, he should have built those pre-orders up again too. Not like he HAD to drop this week. And I'm aware Donald Trump wasn't on BSP, but he hasn't had a single of that attention since.

His fanbase is torn right now between Macklemore and about 4 or 5 different new artists like him on the rise. Plus Em's dropping again soon. He had a solid 10 or 11 minutes so far, but 15 may get here sooner than you think. Just ask Yelawolf.
 

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If these are true, Ye is about where I figured. I see him doing a strong 800k when it's all wrapped up.

I thought would be closer to 300 though.

Mac is about where I figured, also. That 85k first week seems like an accurate representation of his core fanbase.
 

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Sales don't mean as much as you think. There have been artist that sold 10mil & never released another cd. They gonna release your cd no matter what or u gonna go independent.
I think you missed his point. In todays music business, if you can put up numbers you can have complete "creative control" of your albums rather than them dictating what it should sound like.

See Wale n' Cole for this example. Both 360 artists who had to prove their sound to get the labels to let them do them.

Watch Krit's next major label album be a dud cos he flopped the 1st time round anyway.

Again, "creative control."

We all know shyt like that has happend to past artists not making a dime but you gotta look at it like this. Who was managing them? Were they literate enough to know how much the label was raping their profits? Did they use the right lawyers (some used to use lawyers who were not experienced in entertainment law :snoop:, homies etc) Did they care in the 1st place? Or was it just fame they wanted?

Look even Irv Gotti said a 360 aint forever. Ye was on one at some point but you end up re-negotiating your contract whenever your stock goes up.
 

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one of the biggest misconceptions ever.


I mean, to bigger artists like Jay-Z or Kanye West, you have a point, but when it comes to these newer J. Cole and Kendrick Lamar types, actually purchasing their music is huge.


If either Cole or Kendrick wouldn't have put up impressive commercial numbers their first go round, they're either no longer signed or on the shelf. That's just the reality of it. Hate them or love them, dudes like Cole and Kendrick actually doing well in this environment only helps because it makes labels more likely to back a guy like KRIT, Logic or whoever the fukk ya'll love at the moment. They see that there's still a market for talent.


Don't get me wrong, supporting their live shows is huge as well (even though Cole is signed to a 360 lol) but don't act like fans showing support by actually paying for their albums isn't a big deal, because it is.

This is the only reason why i buy as well. If your favourite artist keeps flopping, they will either not get another release date or they wont be getting a deal when their current one expires. That, my friends, is why talented dudes like Joe Budden never saw the light of day beyond their first album or why the likes of Lupe Fiasco will slowly fade away. As much as you would like Sales not to matter(especially for relatively new acts), they actually do.
 

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I think you missed his point. In todays music business, if you can put up numbers you can have complete "creative control" of your albums rather than them dictating what it should sound like.

See Wale n' Cole for this example. Both 360 artists who had to prove their sound to get the labels to let them do them.

Watch Krit's next major label album be a dud cos he flopped the 1st time round anyway.

Again, "creative control."

We all know shyt like that has happend to past artists not making a dime but you gotta look at it like this. Who was managing them? Were they literate enough to know how much the label was raping their profits? Did they use the right lawyers (some used to use lawyers who were not experienced in entertainment law :snoop:, homies etc) Did they care in the 1st place? Or was it just fame they wanted?

Look even Irv Gotti said a 360 aint forever. Ye was on one at some point but you end up re-negotiating your contract whenever your stock goes up.

You have creative control if you're independent. There's almost no point being a major in 2013.. French probably would have sold 5k less indie.
 

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This is the only reason why i buy as well. If your favourite artist keeps flopping, they will either not get another release date or they wont be getting a deal when their current one expires. That, my friends, is why talented dudes like Joe Budden never saw the light of day beyond their first album or why the likes of Lupe Fiasco will slowly fade away. As much as you would like Sales not to matter(especially for relatively new acts), they actually do.

Best believe that lyrical rap is coming back. The non lyrical shyt is underperforming and it has come to a point where lyrical rappers have larger shows and more album sales.
 
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