Need to have this in Toronto
Rush hour in midtown Manhattan
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NYC has commuter rails that go to 2 other states and like 10 counties in New York + 36 subway lines.
That’s why I don’t have a problem with this. It’s an inconvenient to mostly people who don’t live in NYC and aren’t poor. I feel like in TO it might really fukk poorer people over
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An extra 9 dollars a day can add up to 150 -200 dollars a month on too of 400 or so people from NJ pay as it is. It may not seem like a lot on paper but for some people it is no longer worth it to make that commute or least they will take more of the buses and trains.
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Reading through this topic it looks like the majority of people in NY like it and the people who don’t are economics professors that don’t even live in NY.
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@OsseChi
No matter what you think of Congestion Pricing, Trump has ZERO authority here.
He's lying about having this power, don't believe him.
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@OsseChi
No matter what you think of Congestion Pricing, Trump has ZERO authority here.
He's lying about having this power, don't believe him.
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@CBSNewYork
NYC's congestion pricing approval terminated by Trump administration >> NYC's congestion pricing approval terminated by Trump administration
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NYC's congestion pricing approval terminated by Trump administration >> NYC's congestion pricing approval terminated by Trump administration
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JUST IN: The Federal Highway Administration has "terminated approval" of NYC's congestion pricing plan. The plan had gone into effect in January.
Read more: DOT says it has terminated approval for NYC's congestion pricing plan
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JUST IN: The Federal Highway Administration has "terminated approval" of NYC's congestion pricing plan. The plan had gone into effect in January.
Read more: DOT says it has terminated approval for NYC's congestion pricing plan
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New York Declares War On Traffic (A Congestion Pricing Story)
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Henry Grabar – https://www.henrygrabar.com/
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If you want learn more about refocusing cities on people instead of cars, you really should check out The War on Cars, a great podcast hosted by Sarah Goodyear and Doug Gordon: https://thewaroncars.org/
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Apparently I was wrong as fuuck. It's working very well and vast majority of NYers are ok with it. Is that right?
The shiit is working. Apparently it was originally $15 at first and they brought it down to $9 according to the video^^^. But it bringing it down also means less money to fix mass transit, etc. So instead of $1 billion anticipated, more like $500 - $600 million.
The shiit is working. Apparently it was originally $15 at first and they brought it down to $9 according to the video^^^. But it bringing it down also means less money to fix mass transit, etc. So instead of $1 billion anticipated, more like $500 - $600 million.
'Congestion pricing is working': MTA says tolls keeping 82k drivers a day out of Manhattan
The data released by the MTA last week estimates the tolls caused 2.5 million fewer vehicle entries into Manhattan below 60th Street in March.
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'Congestion pricing is working': MTA says tolls keeping 82k drivers a day out of Manhattan
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The MTA’s congestion pricing program continues to accomplish one of its primary goals: drastically reducing the number of vehicles that enter the busiest parts of Manhattan every day.
Data released by the transit agency last week estimates the tolls deterred an average of roughly 82,000 vehicles from entering Manhattan below 60th Street each day in March. That marks a 13% reduction from the 642,500 vehicles the MTA estimates would have entered the tolling area had congestion pricing not been implemented.
Transit officials said tolls are having a more noticeable impact on traffic each month, noting that in January — when the program first launched — the congestion zone saw an estimated 8% drop in vehicle entries.
“The data shows that the program is having its intended effect, reducing congestion by the amount projected, enabling New Yorkers to get where they need to go more quickly,” MTA Deputy Chief of Policy and External Relations Juliette Michaelson wrote in a statement.
As a whole, Michaelson said the tolling area saw approximately 2.5 million fewer vehicle entries during March compared to the same period in previous years..
While the number of vehicles entering the zone dropped last month compared to the historical average, it’s still up slightly from January. Transit officials attributed that to seasonal patterns, saying fewer people drive into Manhattan in the winter than the spring.
The money collected from congestion pricing, which charges a $9 base fare to enter the zone during daytime hours, is required by state law to finance $15 billion worth of mass transit repairs and upgrades.
The program — and the money that comes with it — continue to be threatened by the Trump administration, which insists the fees are a hardship on working class New Yorkers, despite overwhelming data and reporting that finds the vast majority of working class and poor New Yorkers use mass transit, and don’t drive into Manhattan.
President Trump and Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy have ordered the MTA to shut down the tolling program by April 20.
“The good news is that the data reflects what New Yorkers are seeing every day: congestion pricing is working as intended and should remain on, even in the face of misguided threats from the Federal Government," Brian Fritsch, associate director of the Permanent Citizens Advisory Committee to the MTA, wrote in an email.
The federal transportation department has threatened to withhold money from the MTA if the agency does not comply with its order. The feds haven’t specified exactly what money it will withhold, but the MTA is counting on $14 billion in federal funds for its next five-year construction plan.
In a message posted on X last month, Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy wrote, “Know that the billions of dollars the federal government sends to New York are not a blank check. Continued noncompliance will not be taken lightly.”
The MTA is currently suing the federal government to block its order, and briefings scheduled for the lawsuit are likely to delay any decision on congestion pricing’s future until at least October.
For now, vehicles continue to be charged, and the MTA reports it is on track to raise $500 million this year from the tolls.
