Russell "MVP" Westbrook gets outplayed by Patrick Beverley on both ends

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But they WERE world-beaters just a few years ago. And Westbrook still couldn't shoot worth shyt.

2011 with Durant/Harden/Ibaka/Sefolosha: Has 7-18, 6-15, 12-30, 3-15, 9-23, 7-22, 4-12, 3-15, 8-20, and 11-28 games on the way to 39% shooting for the playoffs.

2012 with Durant/Harden/Ibaka/Sefolosha: Has 3-12, 5-17, 7-18, 7-21, 5-15, 2-10, 9-24, 10-26, and 4-20 games on the way to 43.5% shooting for the playoffs.

2013 with Durant/Ibaka/Sefolosha/Kevin Martin/Reggie Jackson: Goes 10-26 in 2nd playoff game and then gets hurt

2014 with Durant/Ibaka/Sefoslosha/Reggie Jackson: Has 11-28, 9-26, 6-24, 10-31, 4-15, 7-24, and 8-23 games on the way to 42% shooting for the playoffs.

2015: Durant misses too many games and they miss the playoffs

2016 with Durant/Ibaka/Waiters: Has 8-22, 7-19, 5-19, 10-31, 5-18, 7-21, 5-14, 11-28, 10-27, and 7-21 games on the way to 40.5% shooting for the playoffs.


Russell has playoff games like this EVERY year, no matter how stacked his teammates were. Even when he was surrounded by some of the most efficient, talented guys in the league, whether his team was stacked with shoters (2011-2014) or stacked in the low court (2015-2017), he's also been right around 40% shooting and always had games where he was tossing up 20-30 shots even though he only made a third of them.






He's never been the best player on the team while doing it though. Mario Chalmers and Derek Fisher have been to a lot more Finals than Westbrook, so that fact alone doesn't say much.

When people look back on that Thunder team, and see that they had Durant/Westbrook/Ibaka for SEVEN YEARS, plus had Harden for three of those years and a supporting cast including solid NBA players like Jeff Green, Kevin Perkins, Derek Fisher, Nick Collison, Thabo Sefolosha, Steven Adams, Enes Kanter, Kevin Martin, Reggie Jackson, etc. for a lot of those years as well, the main thought isn't going to be how successful Westbrook was making it to multiple WCFs. It's going to be how they hell they underperformed like they did.
I'm responding to tell you to never @ me on anything sports related. It's well documented what kept the Thunder from reaching another Finals... and outside of the GSW collapse it had nothing to do with talent, BB IQ, coaching, or execution. You're a hardliner when it comes to players you don't like. You've spent more minutes writing posts to shyt on WB this season than he's spent actually playing the game. Get a new hobby.
 

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I'm responding to tell you to never @ me on anything sports related. It's well documented what kept the Thunder from reaching another Finals... and outside of the GSW collapse it had nothing to do with talent, BB IQ, coaching, or execution. You're a hardliner when it comes to players you don't like. You've spent more minutes writing posts to shyt on WB this season than he's spent actually playing the game. Get a new hobby.

It had nothing to do with talent, that's for sure. My whole point was that OKC was an insanely talented team.

Whether it has to do with coaching is of course debateable, but also irrelevant.

On basketball IQ and execution though, I'm sorry. Westbrook takes a lot of bad shots, often makes huge strings of bad decisions, and is just as bad at decision-making on the defensive end as he is on the offensive end.


Westbrook is 18-87 on game-winners in his career. That's an incredible number when you look at the scorers he's been surrounded with nearly his entire career. But it doesn't matter how many good shooters there were around him - he was 1-8 on game-winners in 2010, 1-5 in 2011, 0-4 in 2012, 2-7 in 2013, 2-3 in 2014, 1-9 in 2015, and 1-11 in 2016. He's 9-45 on game-winning threes in his career, even though he's typically been an awful three-point shooter and until this year the Thunder always had multiple guys who were better at threes than he was. So why's he doing that?

The volume shooting when he was surrounded by offensive talent, the poor decisions on what to do with the ball, the defensive lapses, the stat-padding at certain junctures - all that shyt is well-documented too. You can't say it didn't affect the team. You can't say it wasn't a factor in Durant leaving. The Thunder were only getting better while the Warriors had key players who were getting older/worse...you don't leave your established city and team when it's arguably the most talented team in the NBA and likely to improve unless something serious is wrong.

And yeah, I've been on Westbrook's case this year, but only because he's getting massive praise from certain corners while still doing all the same things wrong. I do the same to anyone who I think isn't playing the game the right way. That's why you see me give so many props to Hakeem, Duncan, CP3, Lebron, and sometimes Jordan, Durant, and Kawhi - I like guys who know how to play the game and play it right on both ends. I'm always going to take a guy like Brandon Roy, who had limited talent but did the exact right thing with the ball on virtually every play, over a guy like Kyrie, who has incredible talent but often gets caught up in his own thing.

:pacspit: if you don't like it. Put me on ignore then. I don't respond to threats, internet or otherwise.
 

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Why hasn't Rondo made a play back to the Finals? Why hasn't CP the "General" made a play to the WCF? STFU. Stop viewing the game in a vacuum.
:lolbron:Will Westbrook ever make it to the wcf again?

but westbrook >>>> rondo
Wasn't my point.


As a player , for sure.

As a playmaker, hell no
 

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But they WERE world-beaters just a few years ago. And Westbrook still couldn't shoot worth shyt.

2011 with Durant/Harden/Ibaka/Sefolosha: Has 7-18, 6-15, 12-30, 3-15, 9-23, 7-22, 4-12, 3-15, 8-20, and 11-28 games on the way to 39% shooting for the playoffs.

2012 with Durant/Harden/Ibaka/Sefolosha: Has 3-12, 5-17, 7-18, 7-21, 5-15, 2-10, 9-24, 10-26, and 4-20 games on the way to 43.5% shooting for the playoffs.

2013 with Durant/Ibaka/Sefolosha/Kevin Martin/Reggie Jackson: Goes 10-26 in 2nd playoff game and then gets hurt

2014 with Durant/Ibaka/Sefoslosha/Reggie Jackson: Has 11-28, 9-26, 6-24, 10-31, 4-15, 7-24, and 8-23 games on the way to 42% shooting for the playoffs.

2015: Durant misses too many games and they miss the playoffs

2016 with Durant/Ibaka/Waiters: Has 8-22, 7-19, 5-19, 10-31, 5-18, 7-21, 5-14, 11-28, 10-27, and 7-21 games on the way to 40.5% shooting for the playoffs.


Russell has playoff games like this EVERY year, no matter how stacked his teammates were. Even when he was surrounded by some of the most efficient, talented guys in the league, whether his team was stacked with shoters (2011-2014) or stacked in the low court (2015-2017), he's also been right around 40% shooting and always had games where he was tossing up 20-30 shots even though he only made a third of them.






He's never been the best player on the team while doing it though. Mario Chalmers and Derek Fisher have been to a lot more Finals than Westbrook, so that fact alone doesn't say much.

When people look back on that Thunder team, and see that they had Durant/Westbrook/Ibaka for SEVEN YEARS, plus had Harden for three of those years and a supporting cast including solid NBA players like Jeff Green, Kevin Perkins, Derek Fisher, Nick Collison, Thabo Sefolosha, Steven Adams, Enes Kanter, Kevin Martin, Reggie Jackson, etc. for a lot of those years as well, the main thought isn't going to be how successful Westbrook was making it to multiple WCFs. It's going to be how they hell they underperformed like they did.
Facts.


This series is about to prove why James Harden deserves the MVP more than that brick tossing statpadding nikka.
 

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I'm responding to tell you to never @ me on anything sports related. It's well documented what kept the Thunder from reaching another Finals... and outside of the GSW collapse it had nothing to do with talent, BB IQ, coaching, or execution. You're a hardliner when it comes to players you don't like. You've spent more minutes writing posts to shyt on WB this season than he's spent actually playing the game. Get a new hobby.

Uhh nah. He told you and gave you stats about exactly what he said. Westbrook has never been an efficient scorer in the playoffs. Prove him wrong.
 

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But they WERE world-beaters just a few years ago. And Westbrook still couldn't shoot worth shyt.

2011 with Durant/Harden/Ibaka/Sefolosha: Has 7-18, 6-15, 12-30, 3-15, 9-23, 7-22, 4-12, 3-15, 8-20, and 11-28 games on the way to 39% shooting for the playoffs.

2012 with Durant/Harden/Ibaka/Sefolosha: Has 3-12, 5-17, 7-18, 7-21, 5-15, 2-10, 9-24, 10-26, and 4-20 games on the way to 43.5% shooting for the playoffs.

2013 with Durant/Ibaka/Sefolosha/Kevin Martin/Reggie Jackson: Goes 10-26 in 2nd playoff game and then gets hurt

2014 with Durant/Ibaka/Sefoslosha/Reggie Jackson: Has 11-28, 9-26, 6-24, 10-31, 4-15, 7-24, and 8-23 games on the way to 42% shooting for the playoffs.

2015: Durant misses too many games and they miss the playoffs

2016 with Durant/Ibaka/Waiters: Has 8-22, 7-19, 5-19, 10-31, 5-18, 7-21, 5-14, 11-28, 10-27, and 7-21 games on the way to 40.5% shooting for the playoffs.


Russell has playoff games like this EVERY year, no matter how stacked his teammates were. Even when he was surrounded by some of the most efficient, talented guys in the league, whether his team was stacked with shoters (2011-2014) or stacked in the low court (2015-2017), he's also been right around 40% shooting and always had games where he was tossing up 20-30 shots even though he only made a third of them.






He's never been the best player on the team while doing it though. Mario Chalmers and Derek Fisher have been to a lot more Finals than Westbrook, so that fact alone doesn't say much.

When people look back on that Thunder team, and see that they had Durant/Westbrook/Ibaka for SEVEN YEARS, plus had Harden for three of those years and a supporting cast including solid NBA players like Jeff Green, Kevin Perkins, Derek Fisher, Nick Collison, Thabo Sefolosha, Steven Adams, Enes Kanter, Kevin Martin, Reggie Jackson, etc. for a lot of those years as well, the main thought isn't going to be how successful Westbrook was making it to multiple WCFs. It's going to be how they hell they underperformed like they did.
You posted all of this just to say that you don't like Sabo.
 
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