Russell Westbrook career falling off so fast

[FAH1223]

Clyde Drexler fell off at around this same time. So did Vince Carter, Dwyane Wade, Shawn Kemp. Julius Erving maybe one year older.

Iggy when he was even younger than that. Hell, Blake Griffin is falling off right now.

You can really tell which players had games that actually are predicated on athleticism.

Russ is averaging 5 turnovers

Wall is averaging only 3

I'd rather keep Wall and see that athletic decline since atleast Wall is a pure PG

 

[Cladyclad]

I don't think he meant the actual "usage" stat, because that basically only counts your shots and turnovers. He means the amount of time Russ dominates the ball. Russ has the ball an average of 7 seconds a possession, Beal only has the ball 4 seconds/possession.

Your 4th quarter stat is based on a tiny sample size, since Russ has only played in 9 games this year and Beal in just 11 games. Russ's 9 fourth quarters is the equivalent of just 2 full games, you can't base anything on that little data. At least wait until he's played 40 or so 4th quarters before you say anything.

He clearly said usage Da fukk
33%
18%
Has nothing to do with Russ lol

and if u use tiny sample excuse. Russ is even more of a tiny sample.

u ok breh. Normally u fair outside of Bron and Kobe

 

[Professor Emeritus]

He clearly said usage Da fukk
33%
18%
Has nothing to do with Russ lol

and if u use tiny sample excuse. Russ is even more of a tiny sample.

u ok breh. Normally u fair outside of Bron and Kobe

Most people don't know that the "usage" stat only measures shot attempts and turnovers, not how long you hold the ball or how many assists you rack up. Since he was referring to why Russ's assist numbers were so high, it's fair to assume that he was referring to how much Russ dominates the ball and not a stat that doesn't have any relation to assists at all.

And Russ's 9 games are a much larger sample size than 9 or 11 quarters.

 

[Cladyclad]

Most people don't know that the "usage" stat only measures shot attempts and turnovers, not how long you hold the ball or how many assists you rack up. Since he was referring to why Russ's assist numbers were so high, it's fair to assume that he was referring to how much Russ dominates the ball and not a stat that doesn't have any relation to assists at all.

And Russ's 9 games are a much larger sample size than 9 or 11 quarters.

fukk Russ

speak on Beal

if for 11 4th quarters in close games your best player stats were
5.5pts
33%fg
18% 3pt
.7ast
And sucks defensively

That’s 11 games. So if someone told u that’s what your best player did when it mattered. How many wins do u think that team would win out of 11?

I would like a honest answer

 

[Trav]

If this it, he had a helluva run.

 

[Conscious Pilot]

Russ is averaging 5 turnovers

Wall is averaging only 3

I'd rather keep Wall and see that athletic decline since atleast Wall is a pure PG

“Pure PG” wise, only CP3 ( You can force a Rondo argument if you forget his Sac and Dallas stints I guess) been better the past decade

 

[Professor Emeritus]

fukk Russ

speak on Beal

if for 11 4th quarters in close games your best player stats were
5.5pts
33%fg
18% 3pt
.7ast


That’s 11 games. So if someone told u that’s what your best player did when it mattered. How many wins do u think that team would win out of 11?

I would like a honest answer

It's not 11 games. It's just 11 quarters. Just 88 minutes. It's like judging a player halfway through their 3rd game, way too little information to go on.

Two years ago Beal shot 52% in the 4th quarter and 40% from three over 70 games. Those are incredible numbers. Last year he shot 45% over 52 games, still decent. That suggests that the issue is simply a tiny sample size and not that he has some random new problem in the 4th (unless adding Russ means that Russ is hogging the rock in the 4th and not letting Beal get the ball in good spots). Do you really think, based on that 11 quarter sample size, that Beal in his 9th season suddenly became a 4th-quarter choker in some meaningless early regular season games?

I mean right now Jimmy Butler is shooting just 30% in the 4th and Kemba just 22% in the 4th, if you want to point out how silly small sample sizes can get you. On the other hand, Bam, Christian Wood, and Colin Sexton are all shooting over 60% in the fourth. All those numbers are going to regress to the middle eventually.

 

[Cladyclad]

It's not 11 games. It's just 11 quarters. Just 88 minutes. It's like judging a player halfway through their 3rd game, way too little information to go on.

Two years ago Beal shot 52% in the 4th quarter and 40% from three over 70 games. Those are incredible numbers. Last year he shot 45% over 52 games, still decent. That suggests that the issue is simply a tiny sample size and not that he has some random new problem in the 4th (unless adding Russ means that Russ is hogging the rock in the 4th and not letting Beal get the ball in good spots). Do you really think, based on that 11 quarter sample size, that Beal in his 9th season suddenly became a 4th-quarter choker in some meaningless early regular season games?

I mean right now Jimmy Butler is shooting just 30% in the 4th and Kemba just 22% in the 4th, if you want to point out how silly small sample sizes can get you. On the other hand, Bam, Christian Wood, and Colin Sexton are all shooting over 60% in the fourth. All those numbers are going to regress to the middle eventually.

If someone told u the best player on a team for 11 4th quarters. Im talking 90% of the games were within 5pts majority of the quarter. And your best player put up them numbers.

how many wins do u think that team would win out of 11 with the best player playing that bad
Would u answer the question sir?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

If someone told u the best player on a team for 11 4th quarters. Im talking 90% of the games were within 5pts majority of the quarter. And your best player put up them numbers.

how many wins do u think that team would win out of 11 with the best player playing that bad
Would u answer the question sir?

Considering that he only shoots 5-6 times a quarter, so the difference between 33% shooting and 50% shooting is literally 1 shot, I wouldn't have a fukking clue how much they would win. It's far too little data to see what the impact would be.

edit: but just to help you out, I decided to look at EVERY game and calculate how many more wins the Wizards would have if Beal shot at least 50% in every single 4th quarter. And the answer is.....1. Plus possibly one more game tied. That's it, and that's with perfect consistency.

 

[Cladyclad]

Considering that he only shoots 5-6 times a quarter, so the difference between 33% shooting and 50% shooting is literally 1 shot, I wouldn't have a fukking clue how much they would win. It's far too little data to see what the impact would be.

Lol.

so if Bron had those same percentages/terrible defense. Do u think LA would be 14-4?

I say at best the lakers would be 10-8 instead of 14-4

edit: fukk I gave u a hypothetical scenario and u couldn’t answer because u know I’m right.

 

[Conan]

damn i want westbrook to succeed.. is he an upgrade to any team?

He has had a great career. He's made a ton of money.

 

[bl2k8]

He was playing some of his best ball in early 2020, I ain’t throwing dirt on Sabo yet

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Lol.

so if Bron had those same percentages/terrible defense. Do u think LA would be 14-4?

I say at best the lakers would be 10-8 instead of 14-4

At best? Wrong. The only games that the Lakers won cause Bron shot great in the 4th were Memphis, Cleveland, and maybe Milwaukee. So at worst they'd be 11-7 or possibly 12-6.

ukk I gave u a hypothetical scenario and u couldn’t answer because u know I’m right.

just to help you out, I decided to look at EVERY game and calculate how many more wins the Wizards would have if Beal shot at least 50% in every single 4th quarter. And the answer is.....1. Plus possibly one more game tied. That's it, and that's with perfect consistency.

 

[Cladyclad]

At best? Wrong. The only games that the Lakers won cause Bron shot great in the 4th were Memphis, Cleveland, and maybe Milwaukee. So at worst they'd be 11-7 or possibly 12-6.




just to help you out, I decided to look at EVERY game and calculate how many more wins the Wizards would have if Beal shot at least 50% in every single 4th quarter. And the answer is.....1. Plus possibly one more game tied. That's it, and that's with perfect consistency.

So u acknowledge a better like the Lakers who have the 2nd best player in the nba and two sixth men would lose two games in the standing if Bron stunk it up. Now imagine a team like the Wiz best player stinking it up u get a 3-10 record lol

 

[Professor Emeritus]

So u acknowledge a better like the Lakers who have the 2nd best player in the nba and two sixth men would lose two games in the standing if Bron stunk it up. Now imagine a team like the Wiz best player stinking it up u get a 3-10 record lol

Once again, the Wizards have only lost 1 or at max 2 games because Beal shot poorly in the 4th. And one of those two games was the Philly game where they were ONLY in it because Beal put up 60 fukking points. So your point isn't true, the Wizards record has virtually nothing to do with Beal's 4th-quarter shooting.