Russia Embarrassing U.S In Syria

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hey even raised interest rates sharply to 17% as a surprise stab in the back for the speculators.

people panicked when they did that because it looked like Russia was losing control. the Rouble fell 25% that day against the dollar. they've stood largely still since then I'll give them that but the trend seems downward.

You can't tell me they prefer these economic sanctions, big inflation, having their economy shave multiple points off their GDP and going into recession as some sort of 'fukk you' to the West. It's illogical. Even if they keep isolating themselves what are they going to do? Stop trading with half the world and their biggest partners in Europe?
 

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people panicked when they did that because it looked like Russia was losing control. the Rouble fell 25% that day against the dollar. they've stood largely still since then I'll give them that but the trend seems downward.

You can't tell me they prefer these economic sanctions, big inflation, having their economy shave multiple points off their GDP and going into recession as some sort of 'fukk you' to the West. It's illogical. Even if they keep isolating themselves what are they going to do? Stop trading with half the world and their biggest partners in Europe?

I know it sounds illogical

But looking at their activities, this is the route they're taking. They're looking East not West. And the nationalists have more clout these days.
 

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I know it sounds illogical

But looking at their activities, this is the route they're taking. They're looking East not West. And the nationalists have more clout these days.
It is illogical. They definitely don't want sanctions, but they're not about to sacrifice their autonomy/national interests for trade especially when there are many trading partners to deal with. Latin America, India, Asia and Africa. Considering that these are where most of the fastest growing economies are, it is a real opportunity to grow fast along with them.

I listened to a speech by Putin the other day and he reiterated that this is an opportunity for them to develop and cultivate other parts of their economy.
 

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It is illogical. They definitely don't want sanctions, but they're not about to sacrifice their autonomy/national interests for trade especially when there are many trading partners to deal with. Latin America, India, Asia and Africa. Considering that these are where most of the fastest growing economies are, it is a real opportunity to grow fast along with them.

I listened to a speech by Putin the other day and he reiterated that this is an opportunity for them to develop and cultivate other parts of their economy.
These drones have really been brainwashed into dismissing the mounting evidence of a shift towards developing economies. Leave it to the coliticians, brics is a fairytale and the only way is 'Murica :blessed:
 

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I know it sounds illogical

But looking at their activities, this is the route they're taking. They're looking East not West. And the nationalists have more clout these days.
It is illogical. They definitely don't want sanctions, but they're not about to sacrifice their autonomy/national interests for trade especially when there are many trading partners to deal with. Latin America, India, Asia and Africa. Considering that these are where most of the fastest growing economies are, it is a real opportunity to grow fast along with them.

I listened to a speech by Putin the other day and he reiterated that this is an opportunity for them to develop and cultivate other parts of their economy.

Russia is a big gas station. You don't really want to piss off the biggest oil consumer in the world (the US) and then hitch your economy to a slowing/crashing China. It's a recipe for a lot of short term pain.
 
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It is illogical. They definitely don't want sanctions, but they're not about to sacrifice their autonomy/national interests for trade especially when there are many trading partners to deal with. Latin America, India, Asia and Africa. Considering that these are where most of the fastest growing economies are, it is a real opportunity to grow fast along with them.

I listened to a speech by Putin the other day and he reiterated that this is an opportunity for them to develop and cultivate other parts of their economy.

Like I said earlier, Putin is a slow mover. He's not reckless as the nationalists but is very sympathetic to their cause.

And yeah the Russians are definitely looking at the diversification of their economy. As long as there's no nuclear war, the prospects for growth are very good. And in their eyes, it'll be due to the Eurasia and East Asia pivot with alternative financial systems.
 

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I posted some articles over the last two months that show China's state investment in Russia has actually declined and is continuing to decline.


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i was being sarcastic. no way china could pick up that kind of slack.
 

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Why Russia is increasing its military presence in Syria

Sep 22nd 2015, 23:50 BY C.L.
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IN THE past few days, Russia has sharply beefed up its military presence in Syria. Reports from American officials (denied by the Russian authorities) state that it now has at least 28 warplanes deployed at an airbase outside Latakia on the Syrian coast. The planes, which according to sources quoted by the New York Times include Su-24 and Su-25 ground-attack planes, reinforce what was thought to be only four Russian planes previously in the country, all of them fighters designed for air combat, not ground combat. The presence of fighters armed with air-to-air missiles is particularly odd, since none of the Syrian enemies facing Syria’s embattled president Bashar al-Assad have an air force; their only potential use would seem to be against planes belonging to the American-led coalition that is currently attacking Islamic State (IS). The planes are said to be protected by anti-aircraft systems, and there are also reported to be surveillance drones in place. Tanks, armoured personnel carriers and howitzers have also been spotted at the base.

At the same time, Russia has been increasing the number of soldiers posted to the base; satellite intelligence gathered by the Americans shows the unloading of prefabricated housing that could accommodate some 1,000-2,000 soldiers. There have been reports on social media of (understandable) reluctance among the ranks at the prospect of potentially having to face IS. Memories in Russia of the losses sustained in Afghanistan are still raw, and IS’s fearsome reputation will be adding to troops reluctance to get involved in another war far from home.

Why is Russia doing this just now? Explanations are various and there will be several parts to the answer. One is simply that over the summer it genuinely started to look as though Mr Assad was losing. IS, as well as other less extreme opposition groups, have been pushing back the border of the small statelet he still controls (small geographically, that is: it still comprises the bulk of Syria’s dwindling population.) Fear of a collapse, or a coup, that might in the worst case deprive Russia of its naval base at Tartus, the only military facility Russia still controls outside the former Soviet Union, will have been genuine. Some reports suggest that Tartus is being expanded, to be able to take the largest Russian ships.

But equally important is political and diplomatic posturing. Vladimir Putin is provisionally expected in New York next week at the United Nations General Assembly, the first time he has attended for a decade. He is also hoping for a one-to-one meeting with Barack Obama. It is important to both his domestic and his foreign audience to be able to show two things. The first is that Russia opposes regime change and will defend its allies. Mr Assad may, eventually, be eased out as part of a deal in which Russia will be a key broker, but it wants to be able to make that deal, which could well be discussed in New York, from a position of strength, not weakness. The second is to signal that Russia is a vital partner for America in the fight against IS and jihadist terror in general, which Russia has even more reason than America to fear. Such a coalition underlines Russia’s continuing status as a great power, and helps bring it back in from the cold, ending the long stand-off between Russia and America over Ukraine.

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Both of these stories are from the pro-Assad Al-Masdar website.

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Russian Military Intelligence Help the Syrian Air Force Kill a Large Number of ISIS Terrorists in Al-Raqqa
By Leith Fadel on September 24, 2015

The recent arrival of the Russian military advisors has found the Syrian Arab Air Force (SAAF) specifically concentrated on the Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham’s (ISIS) positions in the eastern Syrian provinces of Deir Ezzor, Al-Hasakah, Homs, and Al-Raqqa.

On Wednesday morning, the Syrian Air Force launched a series of airstrikes above the Al-Raqqa Governorate that targeted ISIS’ supply route from the aforementioned province to the Deir Ezzor Governorate; this supply route is considered ISIS’ lifeline in both Iraq and Syria due to the long highway that stretches from Al-Raqqa to the Iraqi Al-‘Anbar Governorate.

The specific locations the Syrian Air Force targeted in Al-Raqqa were the Azeri Battalion Camp, Al-Khasna Battalion Camp, New Hisbah Headquarters, ISIS Shari’ah Courts, Al-Takhfeekh Repository, and a large weapons supply depot; these coordinates were all provided by the Russian military advisors, as they shared satellite imagery to reveal ISIS’ locations.

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Chinese Military Personnel Expected to Arrive in Syria
By Leith Fadel on September 23, 2015

The recent arrival of the Russian Marines and Air Force to the Syrian port-city of Tartous has generated a significant amount of interest around the world, as the possibility of Russia’s direct military intervention becomes the focal point of the war on ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham).

Should the Russians begin military operations in Syria, what role with the U.S. led “Anti-ISIS Coalition” play in combatting the terrorist group? Will they coordinate with one another? Will they avoid one another?

It seems both sides have their own strategy to combat ISIS, but the U.S. has had far more experience fighting the terrorist group, despite their minimal success in obstructing their growth and advance in Syria and Iraq.

Russia seems poised to take a similar approach to the U.S. led Coalition; however, they are not seeking the assistance of the neighboring Arab countries to combat the terrorist group.

Instead, the Russians appear to have a contingency that involves another world power that was absent from the U.S. led Anti-ISIS Coalition: China.

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Chinese Military Personnel Expected to Arrive in Syria
 
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