Ryan Coogler & Michael B. Jordan vampire film "Sinners"

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I'm sorry I gotta spoil the party but I'm just gonna go ahead and say it.

Ryan coogler is a hack.

He is nothing more than M. Night Shyamalan with a FBA hairline and a green light.

He wont fool me again.

I dunno even know where to begin. Just like with the black panther movies my issue is his films always play it safe and take no risks plotwise. Just straight down the middle rehashed story and plot arc.

The risk it does take with the the first big music sequence completely took me out of the movie. Break dancers and ballerinas? Really? Spent the first hour of the movie establishing the time period only take you completely out of it? It was all build up, a few cool visuals and very little payoff. I didn't care about the main vampire or his death cause we don't know anything about him and he didn't bother to give him a back story, purpose or motive.

Why didn’t he establish they were in a universe where people already knew vampires were real and exist? The one lady just magically out of nowhere knew what they were and how to kill them immediately. No explanation given. What happened with the Indians too?

Also it’s a period piece from Jim Crow but he makes sure white folks are not uncomfortable and doesn’t really tackle that angle well. All the bad white folks are caricatures.. either monsters or klan members that's white folks can easily disassociate and say they are not like us.

Oh and it didn’t help that the trailer basically showed all the main scenes in the film.
5 / 10 for the music which was great. The rest is mid and generic.
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Damn good movie, and people that say MBJ can't act, while what you call this

Sammie playing his music from the guitar brough the vampires there interesting, I wish it was explained more in detail. I guess it's the connection between music and spiritualty, which I've heard my entire life. Leader of the vampires was getting his Irish shyt off, he was having everybody jugging outside the jukejoint :russ:

It was good to see my nikka who played Cornbread on a movie again:russ:

I will be seeing it again tomorrow
Yea I was wondering what the main vampire meant when he said he wanted Sammie and wanted to see his people again or whatever
 

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I'm sorry I gotta spoil the party but I'm just gonna go ahead and say it.

Ryan coogler is a hack.

He is nothing more than M. Night Shyamalan with a FBA hairline and a green light.

He wont fool me again.

I dunno even know where to begin. Just like with the black panther movies my issue is his films always play it safe and take no risks plotwise. Just straight down the middle rehashed story and plot arc.

The risk it does take with the the first big music sequence completely took me out of the movie. Break dancers and ballerinas? Really? Spent the first hour of the movie establishing the time period only take you completely out of it? It was all build up, a few cool visuals and very little payoff. I didn't care about the main vampire or his death cause we don't know anything about him and he didn't bother to give him a back story, purpose or motive.

Why didn’t he establish they were in a universe where people already knew vampires were real and exist? The one lady just magically out of nowhere knew what they were and how to kill them immediately. No explanation given. What happened with the Indians too?

Also it’s a period piece from Jim Crow but he makes sure white folks are not uncomfortable and doesn’t really tackle that angle well. All the bad white folks are caricatures.. either monsters or klan members that's white folks can easily disassociate and say they are not like us.

Oh and it didn’t help that the trailer basically showed all the main scenes in the film.
5 / 10 for the music which was great. The rest is mid and generic.
The first vampire writings occurred in the 1800s or so. Bram Stroker's Dracula, the most famous vampire novel, was 1897. As it wasn't explained in the movie, but well-known in the south, many of the black people in that era couldn't read. . Their families took them out of school so they could work in the fields (cotton, tobacco, etc) to make money. Of course the pastors could read the bible, but they served their purpose. There was always someone or a few that could read and knew a bit more than everyone else. This was 1932. Libraries in segregated black areas weren't normal in Mississippi. So it's not strange that no one heard of a vampire in 1932 MS when the most famous vampire novel dropped only 35 years later. Look at it like this, all of the technology we have today and there are still so called hip hop heads in their 30s that can't name 3 hip hop albums from 1990 without googling. And that was 35 years ago. So it's not outlandish for a 1932 MS native to have never heard of a vampire.
 

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I dont think it was sequel bait [but i see how it can be interpreted as such] i think it was just plain how it was shown, just letting you know we still alive and followed your whole career, and if you want to stay alive just let us know
 

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It was said in the movie that they are sharecroppers, breh

Punishing the movie for being historically realistic is crazy work tbh
People think that picking cotton was only a slavery thing. This is the problem with our school systems today. People were still picking cotton in the 60s here in my area. It was a source of income.
 

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I dont think it was sequel bait [but i see how it can be interpreted as such] i think it was just plain how it was shown, just letting you know we still alive and followed your whole career, and if you want to stay alive just let us know
What's interesting is that when the sun came up I noticed that stack neither Mary got showed to be burnt, they had to duck inside the house. There's room for a sequel if they want to explore what happened in the aftermath until 1992 or tying back what happened then to current times
 

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I dont think it was sequel bait [but i see how it can be interpreted as such] i think it was just plain how it was shown, just letting you know we still alive and followed your whole career, and if you want to stay alive just let us know

I would say…

The devil came to see Sammie twice because he kept playing despite his father wishing he denounced the guitar and music. Just apart of that life, no matter the era.
 

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I would say…

The devil came to see Sammie twice because he kept playing despite his father wishing he denounced the guitar and music. Just apart of that life, no matter the era.
Like @Tommy Gibbs said or
The connection with Sammie playing music, his father warned him about, it makes me believe Sammie and the vampires had a previous run-in.
And you can add in that this was Mississippi 1932. A few years later, the myth of Robert Johnson's guitar skills from making a deal with the devil at the crossroads would occur. So I thought about that from the first scene when his dad was trying to get him to give up that "devil music". Until my grandmother died in 1995, she called anything that wasn't gospel "devil music" :russ:
 
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