Ryback and Miz outdraw CM Punk/Ziggler's best promo(Segment Breakdown)

[R=G]

Point out one thing in what I said that isnt the gods honest truth. Any one thing. In fact look on here or even on and point out anything ive said that wasnt true.

Miz just turned and it did slightly better than Punk. Great for him but you think that means anything major? if it were a 1 point rating difference then cool but it wasnt even that. Ryback is the new hype machine so it works. Dude aint over up here though. Hell he wasnt even over on monday until he lead his own chant. And i LIKE Ryback.

You want to see whos getting over? listen to the crowd week in and week out, count the signs, take notice of the shirts being sold. Miz is getting legit reactions now (finally), Ryback's shirt sells (might be due to the catch phrase), Mysterio is a safe bet and Cena and Punk will be Cena and Punk. Under that you have D Bry, Ziggler and Ryder. THATS IT.

Most cable networks offer HUNDREDS of channels, each quarter hour is broken down by whos watching in in the first few minutes of it. Its still basically a free for all which doesnt really tell us anything unless your segment goes longer than a few minutes. Hence why Punk's reign has gone on as long as it has. Otherwise he would have had the belt taken off of him faster than you could say "Randy Orton 2004" Wether you mad that punk dissed the Rock or not the dude always gets a reaction since day one when Miz was flubbin lines during diva search segments (which gained viewers so that must have been Miz huh?)

Point of this whole thing is you really seem to take these things more seriously than Vince even does. That rating needle isnt moving until the other four real superstars comes back, HHH, Taker, Brock and Rock. Until then its going to stay around this area no matter what shyt vince books. Looking at mere .04 ratings differences is foolish.

Youre a good poster on the whole breh and i defend you when needed but the pandering gimmick needs to stop.

First off, I'm not a good poster. I'm a legendary poster. Big difference. What I Said wouldn't matter if I wasn't who I am. Secondly, had Miz and Ryback BOMBED, you would all be celebrating and laughing and not getting defensive..which you are. And that speaks more volumes than anything I could ever hope for. Happy Thanksgiving, Truth. As usual, it's on ME to deliver the truth while everyone else scrambles for some semblance of spinning to follow their self made agendas of no worth.

It was fukkERY this and fukkERY that on Monday but now the results aren't to one's liking. The excuses are nonstop

PPV buyrates have been trending downward till this year. The year of "difference"

One man outdrew the entire company in under two months

 

[The Great One]

You nyggas are TOO MUCH, man. I love it.

Actually he is right on that one. They didn't advertise any Dolph or Cena segments the whole night and on a 3 hour show it is hard for hardcore fans like us to stay watching the whole time. So for a casual fan, it would be impossible. So they didn't know when it was going to be on, and it was only like a 5 minute segment anyway, so for a weird number like that, it is understandable. It is against the norm.

On the other hand, the hugely hyped CM Punk segment, which was advertised as last in the show many times, and fans knew what time to tune in for, was NOT the highest of the night, which is the real embarrassment and what I think you are arguing. CM Punk's quarters are almost always never the highest of the show, which is a huge problem and really, an embarrassment for him and the company as whole.

 

[Jackson LeRoy Briggs]

Brodus vs. Cesaro, a match we've seen before which featured the exact same ending gained viewers. Unless you want to tell me people tuned in for a Make a Wish Foundation promo, that means viewership trends towards the "same ol' shyt" routine that we trash here every day. And we got nikkas celebrating

 

[R=G]

If it gained, Jack, it gained. Give it credit...they always do when Punk and Sheamus get anything


This J Scholar character is as fukk

Wake the fuk up Rock fanboy

 

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[MBwithadream]

I say this, the main event for Wrestlemania should be Miz vs Punk WWE championship.

Face Miz vs Heel Punk

World Heavyweight championship
Heel Sheamus vs Goatface Daniel Bryan

 

[StatUS]

So to sum this thread up.

An opening segment of a post-PPV show where people are tuning in to see what happened does the highest number but Punk draws the largest increase and now he's a failure. Oh and Miz got a gain for once

 

[R=G]

OVERRUN increase and not even a big one..you're gonna prop that up?

 

[King Crimson]

I don't particularly care about ratings, but these numbers suck for every segment.

WWE needs a savior badly.

We have one. A straight edge savior.

I don't give fukk about you being mad at the results. Point blank..an unknown outdrew your great WWE Champion. Every analyst in the business is laughing about it. They killed him on WO. This is hilarious

I bet.

Barrett did better in 2010 than Punk in 2012. But no one likes to talk about that

He was involved in a bigger angle. The Nexus had the potential to be NWO-Lite ( no disrespect.) but the 'E dropped the ball. If stayed on the track, Nexus had the potential to be the biggest angle of the last 5 years. :wadepls:

 

[StatUS]

OVERRUN increase and not even a big one..you're gonna prop that up?

All this for the Miz huh

 

[Beautiful Bobby Eatin]

First off, I'm not a good poster. I'm a legendary poster. Big difference. What I Said wouldn't matter if I wasn't who I am. Secondly, had Miz and Ryback BOMBED, you would all be celebrating and laughing and not getting defensive..which you are. And that speaks more volumes than anything I could ever hope for. Happy Thanksgiving, Truth. As usual, it's on ME to deliver the truth while everyone else scrambles for some semblance of spinning to follow their self made agendas of no worth.

It was fukkERY this and fukkERY that on Monday but now the results aren't to one's liking. The excuses are nonstop



One man outdrew the entire company in under two months

Man did you pick the wrong person to try to spin things on.

Lets break this down one by one.

1. Legendary. Its a forum breh. its wrestling, porn, sports and hip-hop talk it aint that serious. There arent any legends here this doesnt spill over into my every day life. And ive never asked you for porn or comics or anything so dont even bother trying that tired argument.

2. I said from the jump that i wanted a Miz face turn. Im happy he finally did it suits him better. If it didnt pan out then whatever. Ryback ive never said an ill word against. Happy for his push too. Im the guy who is against ratings talk because its so fukking stupid to begin with. But thats your bread and butter for whatever reason. For as much time as you spend with it you think you owned a controlling share of the company or something.

3. Defensive? this is what you call rebuttals to what you say? I left it wide open for you to prove me wrong in anything ive said. You havent. You can't. Know why? because my view isnt clouded by bias and hate. I see what i see. Do some Punk segments bomb? Sure. But i also know on a three hour show if i am bored, i will turn on DVR to watch something else i may have missed over the weekend that i find more interesting. Monday i decided to watch dexter for an hour. i doubt im the only one doing it.

4. Truth. Since we wanna go gimmicky right now, fine. Want truth? Look no further. I have laid the truth down to your feet. As an added bonus ill even give you more. In the next 5 months eithe Punk or Cena will beat the Rock and it has you furious. Why? God only knows but it does. How do you make yourself feel better about that? You latch on to the supposed "failures" of the guys you dont like. its just wrestling. Why does each discussion on this has to come to this? Why cant you just sit back and enjoy the fukkery like the rest of us? No. Stop and think about it. i really want to know. Why do you keep one hand on a keyboard and one on a calculator every time the ratings comes out?

So far what ive seen from you, you wont answer this question and youll say something having to do with me being mad, or this or that and completely deflect. or youll insult me because i dont agree with the great Erik DiMera. And you know what, thats cool. Do what you gotta do. However you need to rationalize things, go ahead. But the truth stays the truth regardless. And not even "legendary" forum posters can change it.

 

[R=G]

He was involved in a bigger angle. The Nexus had the potential to be NWO-Lite ( no disrespect.) but the 'E dropped the ball. If stayed on the track, Nexus had the potential to be the biggest angle of the last 5 years. :wadepls:

True. It also did better than Punk's top matches in 2011 too when Punk was at the hottest of his entire career.

All this for the Miz huh

There was a celebration. Where's the celebration now?

 

[Golayitdown]

Man did you pick the wrong person to try to spin things on.

Lets break this down one by one.

1. Legendary. Its a forum breh. its wrestling, porn, sports and hip-hop talk it aint that serious. There arent any legends here this doesnt spill over into my every day life. And ive never asked you for porn or comics or anything so dont even bother trying that tired argument.

2. I said from the jump that i wanted a Miz face turn. Im happy he finally did it suits him better. If it didnt pan out then whatever. Ryback ive never said an ill word against. Happy for his push too. Im the guy who is against ratings talk because its so fukking stupid to begin with. But thats your bread and butter for whatever reason. For as much time as you spend with it you think you owned a controlling share of the company or something.

3. Defensive? this is what you call rebuttals to what you say? I left it wide open for you to prove me wrong in anything ive said. You havent. You can't. Know why? because my view isnt clouded by bias and hate. I see what i see. Do some Punk segments bomb? Sure. But i also know on a three hour show if i am bored, i will turn on DVR to watch something else i may have missed over the weekend that i find more interesting. Monday i decided to watch dexter for an hour. i doubt im the only one doing it.

4. Truth. Since we wanna go gimmicky right now, fine. Want truth? Look no further. I have laid the truth down to your feet. As an added bonus ill even give you more. In the next 5 months eithe Punk or Cena will beat the Rock and it has you furious. Why? God only knows but it does. How do you make yourself feel better about that? You latch on to the supposed "failures" of the guys you dont like. its just wrestling. Why does each discussion on this has to come to this? Why cant you just sit back and enjoy the fukkery like the rest of us? No. Stop and think about it. i really want to know. Why do you keep one hand on a keyboard and one on a calculator every time the ratings comes out?

So far what ive seen from you, you wont answer this question and youll say something having to do with me being mad, or this or that and completely deflect. or youll insult me because i dont agree with the great Erik DiMera. And you know what, thats cool. Do what you gotta do. However you need to rationalize things, go ahead. But the truth stays the truth regardless. And not even "legendary" forum posters can change it.

 

[ecks12]

OVERRUN increase and not even a big one..you're gonna prop that up?

Listening to yesterday's WO radio, Meltzer said the 2.87 overrun was one of the lowest overruns ever.

 

[R=G]

1. Legendary. Its a forum breh. its wrestling, porn, sports and hip-hop talk it aint that serious. There arent any legends here this doesnt spill over into my every day life. And ive never asked you for porn or comics or anything so dont even bother trying that tired argument.

It shouldn't be but honestly you know better than that.

2. I said from the jump that i wanted a Miz face turn. Im happy he finally did it suits him better. If it didnt pan out then whatever. Ryback ive never said an ill word against. Happy for his push too. Im the guy who is against ratings talk because its so fukking stupid to begin with. But thats your bread and butter for whatever reason. For as much time as you spend with it you think you owned a controlling share of the company or something.

If Miz had fell flat on his face and still may, you'll probably be happy about it. For now...he's winning. And RATINGS talk and DRAWING talks matter because everything else is a work except the perception of how a guy works in the ring. That's distinctive and flaws can be found. Viewers TURNING THE CHANNEL or not COMING IN DROVES for celebrations proves who draws and who doesn't. Something we've been talking about long before you ever even got here. Because it's CM Punk? Now feelings are caught and excuses are aplenty. I find that ridiculous.

3. Defensive? this is what you call rebuttals to what you say? I left it wide open for you to prove me wrong in anything ive said. You havent. You can't. Know why? because my view isnt clouded by bias and hate. I see what i see. Do some Punk segments bomb? Sure. But i also know on a three hour show if i am bored, i will turn on DVR to watch something else i may have missed over the weekend that i find more interesting. Monday i decided to watch dexter for an hour. i doubt im the only one doing it.

I can't? I got NUMBERS. What are you talking about? "Good posters and face turns." Come on I missed last week's Raw and only saw like 15 minutes of it on Youtube. Yes. You use DVR and I use links and streaming when it gets tedious. Same shyt.

4. Truth. Since we wanna go gimmicky right now, fine. Want truth? Look no further. I have laid the truth down to your feet. As an added bonus ill even give you more. In the next 5 months eithe Punk or Cena will beat the Rock and it has you furious. Why? God only knows but it does. How do you make yourself feel better about that? You latch on to the supposed "failures" of the guys you dont like. its just wrestling. Why does each discussion on this has to come to this? Why cant you just sit back and enjoy the fukkery like the rest of us? No. Stop and think about it. i really want to know. Why do you keep one hand on a keyboard and one on a calculator every time the ratings comes out?

I always said Punk should of went over Rock at Mania. Why on earth would I be "furious" over the Rock being proven to be the savior of pro wrestling YET AGAIN? I enjoy fukkery but you're celebration threads often involve over propping one guy in particular and trying to make it seem like I was wrong at some juncture. No. I was right. I told you all 3 years ago about CM Punk and his abilities and NOW cats wanna be on his bandwaggon because he brought his ROH game to television. Before that, it was all about "Edge, Morrison, Blandy kissing Stephanie, etc". All of that wack shyt. I was laughing at cats then and DAMN SURE am laughing now

I already told you why ratings matter. It discounts the bullshyt. In the end, the buyrates are gonna tell the story on what made sense or stuff like half that crowd not being there for the 365 celebration that was exposed by ME

So far what ive seen from you, you wont answer this question and youll say something having to do with me being mad, or this or that and completely deflect. or youll insult me because i dont agree with the great Erik DiMera. And you know what, thats cool. Do what you gotta do. However you need to rationalize things, go ahead. But the truth stays the truth regardless. And not even "legendary" forum posters can change it.

Look. I get it. You're upset. All the fukkery references and fun had a bad ending. The cats who spat on Ryback are looking kind of silly because he got the highest rating of the night. No matter what the numbers were overall. That's what happened. And that's it. Deflect? Look at that opening post. There is NO deflecting from that. It's not the DiMera way