RZA Believes 'No Other MC Can Compare' to GZA — Not Even Nas or Rakim

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I remember one interview where he was praising GZA, and said he may take 10 years to write 1 rhyme. But that one rhyme sparks 100 rhymes for the Clan.
 

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As a hip hop elitist im not supposed to feel this way but I do: I don't even think gza the best in the wu.

Raw lyricism is necessary but there's more required. And gza just doesn't have that "more".

I'd put meth over gza. Especially with the additional material meth is still doing today. Plus meth has more personality and star power while at the same time being just as sharp with the pen.

And to show example: Meth killed gza on his own track on Liquid Swords.
 

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As a hip hop elitist im not supposed to feel this way but I do: I don't even think gza the best in the wu.

Raw lyricism is necessary but there's more required. And gza just doesn't have that "more".

I'd put meth over gza. Especially with the additional material meth is still doing today. Plus meth has more personality and star power while at the same time being just as sharp with the pen.

And to show example: Meth killed gza on his own track on Liquid Swords.
I personally have Ghost ranked as the highest Wu member. Great albums, still can spit to this day, could make hits but his influence over the underground directly leading to two of the greatest discographies in rap history is important, no Ghost no MF Doom or Westside Gunn
 

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As a hip hop elitist im not supposed to feel this way but I do: I don't even think gza the best in the wu.

Raw lyricism is necessary but there's more required. And gza just doesn't have that "more".

I'd put meth over gza. Especially with the additional material meth is still doing today. Plus meth has more personality and star power while at the same time being just as sharp with the pen.

And to show example: Meth killed gza on his own track on Liquid Swords.
Deck better than Gza also in this day in age
 

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As a hip hop elitist im not supposed to feel this way but I do: I don't even think gza the best in the wu.

Raw lyricism is necessary but there's more required. And gza just doesn't have that "more".

I'd put meth over gza. Especially with the additional material meth is still doing today. Plus meth has more personality and star power while at the same time being just as sharp with the pen.

And to show example: Meth killed gza on his own track on Liquid Swords.
But they all say GZA's the best....except Meth, who now crowns Deck as his favorite MC.
 

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When did ju not smash out.
as the west east and east coast best emcee.
starting as a kid with his jaw wired shut. predating any of his contemporaries.
in rhe new school way of thought.
In the same time frame did ypu miss out on.
That which.

tuna from j5 to numark to xzibit and likwits. Plus the entire world tour can all vouch for.
is and still is nicer than everybody else in the west coast grassroots. as esrly as before ten.
Plus serving every coast that includes being the best.
Plus servjng est of three times dope. Making ju three times doper than anybody you mention..


So stop the cap

While at the same time.

Busts and all of them.
were still cypher'n and hoping for a loan dodger ssving deal.
Ju was on nationally.
While they were in high school.

Ju in the same timeline had already made prime time radio a viable profitable marketplacing. Beford rakim and biz met to this story of busta and them in high school.


When ju madd it possible for primetime radio. Ju did this with his jaw wired shut for six months straight.
Off the head snd undefeated.

plus win national on a level kther never matched.

thst is just to crush your timeline you began with.


Just for starters.


You should have googled :

reversals@counters.com
To get yo beginning timeline right.


As ju is factually doper than the entire world's history of rapper's that are all his contemporary.

@Bugzbunny129

you still mek favorite rabbit hole poppin poster. Yet time to kill all your rappers comparisons in timeline.


Plus, ju was relevent with wendy day.

Way before rap olympics.

Way before people made up this eight mile lie. That is prevalent in the marketplace. Which peoole derivided from fard and hiphopinfinity.com. plus the eight mile lie eberybody that raps is apart ofnhiphop overnight.
Falsely deflecting affirmative action style semantics of inclusion of eminem at rhe rap olympics.
Where eminem earned throughed't grassroots skill to show and prove same as ju. Yet racism and this eight milenlie mixed together. Has ju removed from his proper place in history. Mixed with the pr hate encapsulated in the bds njmber one ranked classic you posted.

I have the facts and skills in mek favor in This discussion.

Plus when you ready to play strings behind the curtain talk.

You can break kayfabe.

to say who you are publically. Instead of rhe mysterious rabbit hole pop up username of sohh lore.
Peace mek sohh brethren.

You have lauced't.

By mek facts on mek table.


Art Barr

I'mek on mek.

I got tha table on me.
The 8 mole lie? The life that didnt happen. The whole life he penned from his window of shyt he didnt do. Yea hes good at madlibs and word games. Never made a record people care about.

Ive been peeping the nyc shade

You in a gza thread going off on accomplishments that arent yours and bragging about them. You getting old art. Repeating yourself.

Rap olympics is for FRAUDs. Smart mark shyt.

They sent eninem over wnd he style morphed off every rapper they let him near. All based on the look YOUR BOY gave him. Thanks art. Seriously….

Eminem was NOBODY during rap olympics. Literally was created for him and wendy used everyone to get hin over. Thats not s champion. Thats a JOBBER. one that won and still didnt win.

Tom mcJob. One good night with a future champion dont make you over bruh. Put the gimmicks in fanny pack down.

Hit the rhyme weights. Get a clue


You chose to shyt on gza to amp yaself up. Ya losing a step shytting on gza. You gon end up self tabled and out the game like sabu.

After match handshake?

Sike

No indy gooftroop shyt here

No ecw tables

No fancy bullshyt

Strong style

Gza rhymed with all the guys you and juice were trying to be. Fluck atta here. In MSG. Legit. On every magazine. Bruno.

yall vanilla midgets couldnt draw a dime and had to work indies and spot shows.

You didnt even know you was following the blueprint set before you cause YOU obsessed with your own

Going into business for yaself. Typical

NYC MADE IT. you just playing pretend. Here it was real. This aint white people setup rap olympics. Blaze battles. J5! HA

Yall outta towners try too hard to prove ya down


You aint gon shyt on gza and amp eminem by way of a jobber in front of me art those FIGHTING WORDS bruh

And i will headline coli msg RIGHT NOW. Sell out.

BROTHER

And i will be posing post match for pictures and autographs.

And come back next month in the cage and donit again.
 
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Btw Liquid is too dark to get mainstream props

Its the perfect art rap album. Reminds me or things like hell on earth and the cold vein. Albums that make no attempts at getting over. Theres nothing pop about liquid swords. Its raw mcing and beat making. Theres popish elements on all other classics. Its the purist wu album.

Plus take into consideration his students are the illest in the game bar for bar one team vs anyone else. Theres other rappers that might have mastered more aspects of mcing but the purist raw boxer like premise, you cant fukk with his jab.

All his albums have gems. Ls and gm are the two best

But both beneath and legend have string cuts but too many ehish to compare to the others tho i thini beneath is just under gm tho both albums suffer from lackluster production.
 
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The 8 mole lie? The life that didnt happen. The whole life he penned from his window of shyt he didnt do. Yea hes good at madlibs and word games. Never made a record people care about.

Ive been peeping the nyc shade

You in a gza thread going off on accomplishments that arent yours and bragging about them. You getting old art. Repeating yourself.

Rap olympics is for FRAUDs. Smart mark shyt.

They sent eninem over wnd he style morphed off every rapper they let him near. All based on the look YOUR BOY gave him. Thanks art. Seriously….

Eminem was NOBODY during rap olympics. Literally was created for him and wendy used everyone to get hin over. Thats not s champion. Thats a JOBBER. one that won and still didnt win.

Tom mcJob. One good night with a future champion dont make you over bruh. Put the gimmicks in fanny pack down.

Hit the rhyme weights. Get a clue


You chose to shyt on gza to amp yaself up. Ya losing a step shytting on gza. You gon end up self tabled and out the game like sabu.

After match handshake?

Sike

No indy gooftroop shyt here

No ecw tables

No fancy bullshyt

Strong style

Gza rhymed with all the guys you and juice were trying to be. Fluck atta here. In MSG. Legit. On every magazine. Bruno.

yall vanilla midgets couldnt draw a dime and had to work indies and spot shows.

You didnt even know you was following the blueprint set before you cause YOU obsessed with your own

Going into business for yaself. Typical

NYC MADE IT. you just playing pretend. Here it was real. This aint white people setup rap olympics. Blaze battles. J5! HA

Yall outta towners try too hard to prove ya down


You aint gon shyt on gza and amp eminem by way of a jobber in front of me art those FIGHTING WORDS bruh

And i will headline coli msg RIGHT NOW. Sell out.

BROTHER

And i will be posing post match for pictures and autographs.

And come back next month in the cage and donit again.


I see you did not read.
We too old to be skim'n.
@Bugzbunny129
maybe your light and electrical ain't zoned properly for you after all this time. Moonlighting and wabbit rabbit portal hole hop'n.
Thst table i put you throughed't last past.
took abad turn in your currebmnt state. Has you exhibiting failure in reading comprehension For you. Every time you pop up.
It has an effect on your wifi.
found in your wabbit rabbit portal hole.
Plus you seem to be living this eight mile lie. Like everybody else. Who seen eight mile. Like they nice now. Yet been writing rhymes on a mattress in their tummy.
with their anke bones in the air like moesha.
Not cypherin off thevhead of mek and ju ever.

Iike juice did not exist before rap olympics. While also serving the whole east, west and midwest coast.
We ain't discriminate.

Ju was ju before 88.

This long dialogue was you citing what you feel not facts.
Plus all your flaug'n inaccurrate speaking points. Mixed with fake flaug clandestined content like you being covert. While being wild inaccurrate about juice origins. That predate wu cyphas sir.
Plus most post golden era.
Including have a larger output publically. Before the styles war era began. That predates and stretches from their and that time. Till to this day.

None of them killed shyt six mintbs on the radio with a broken jaw before.
Most of the golden age that never made it. Sold out and failed to be will smith. Ehile ju had eill smith on rakim level. So like i said. If eill smith sound like rakim in summertime. Then the oerson who wrote. Juice must be rakim level or better.


Plus keep harping on eminem. When it is hordes of other loan dodger rappers thst got served.

Plus i have a head count of my own. With taxidery head counts of wack emces. Like a predator on killer of killers on the mic.
From wack signed rspper like speexh or arrested development and to game show record deal emcee winners like ep ths hell cat out for dolo.
Plus many more contenporaries that are given props as nice. Yet not as nice.
as me the protege to a legend tho.
As well as a classic debut record. in good grief all on mek own. So unless you dropped.
at top to chart anywhere in your debut or anyone else's. They need to be top three to see my ranking at four.
Which means me and ju have the two spots in the top five grassroots and in skill historically. This is by grassroots accolades. Bds. Etc.

Like i said good luck. I put you throughed't it. so stop the cap
all because you lack'n and don't know about ju serve'n emcees like culinsry arts.
. Holla back when you ready to disclose publically.
who you are, too. As nobody has time for the part time insider nonsense.
Speak with clarity. So we can understand. So then i can spell it out for you. To drop a post filled with knowledge again.
Like building blocks given to letter man.

I have always definitively and with clarity put any and all throughed't it.
You too . Mek wabbit portal hop'n,
Part timer.

you got to much post rust.
to even think about going rounds wirh me in the deep dark depths of the coli under current. You past yo prime and need to take this legends coli contract and sign it. Before i put you throughed't the table. I provided for this contract signing.
i got a few charity events and put'n you throughed't it.
Will have a deso gate.


sohh the coli collective.
Can see me put an ol vet out to pasture.
maybe i give you some pyro.
Simultaneously,......while i go over and squash an ol washed sohh poster.
in a janice conchairto finish.
when i put you throughed't It.





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I see you did not read.
We too old to be skim'n.
@Bugzbunny129
maybe your light and electrical ain't zoned properly for you after all this time. Moonlighting and wabbit rabbit portal hole hop'n.
Thst table i put you throughed't last past.
took abad turn in your currebmnt state. Has you exhibiting failure in reading comprehension For you. Every time you pop up.
It has an effect on your wifi.
found in your wabbit rabbit portal hole.
Plus you seem to be living this eight mile lie. Like everybody else. Who seen eight mile. Like they nice now. Yet been writing rhymes on a mattress in their tummy.
with their anke bones in the air like moesha.
Not cypherin off thevhead of mek and ju ever.

Iike juice did not exist before rap olympics. While also serving the whole east, west and midwest coast.
We ain't discriminate.

Ju was ju before 88.

This long dialogue was you citing what you feel not facts.
Plus all your flaug'n inaccurrate speaking points. Mixed with fake flaug clandestined content like you being covert. While being wild inaccurrate about juice origins. That predate wu cyphas sir.
Plus most post golden era.
Including have a larger output publically. Before the styles war era began. That predates and stretches from their and that time. Till to this day.

None of them killed shyt six mintbs on the radio with a broken jaw before.
Most of the golden age that never made it. Sold out and failed to be will smith. Ehile ju had eill smith on rakim level. So like i said. If eill smith sound like rakim in summertime. Then the oerson who wrote. Juice must be rakim level or better.


Plus keep harping on eminem. When it is hordes of other loan dodger rappers thst got served.

Plus i have a head count of my own. With taxidery head counts of wack emces. Like a predator on killer of killers on the mic.
From wack signed rspper like speexh or arrested development and to game show record deal emcee winners like ep ths hell cat out for dolo.
Plus many more contenporaries that are given props as nice. Yet not as nice.
as me the protege to a legend tho.
As well as a classic debut record. in good grief all on mek own. So unless you dropped.
at top to chart anywhere in your debut or anyone else's. They need to be top three to see my ranking at four.
Which means me and ju have the two spots in the top five grassroots and in skill historically. This is by grassroots accolades. Bds. Etc.

Like i said good luck. I put you throughed't it. so stop the cap
all because you lack'n and don't know about ju serve'n emcees like culinsry arts.
. Holla back when you ready to disclose publically.
who you are, too. As nobody has time for the part time insider nonsense.
Speak with clarity. So we can understand. So then i can spell it out for you. To drop a post filled with knowledge again.
Like building blocks given to letter man.

I have always definitively and with clarity put any and all throughed't it.
You too . Mek wabbit portal hop'n,
Part timer.

you got to much post rust.
to even think about going rounds wirh me in the deep dark depths of the coli under current. You past yo prime and need to take this legends coli contract and sign it. Before i put you throughed't the table. I provided for this contract signing.
i got a few charity events and put'n you throughed't it.
Will have a deso gate.


sohh the coli collective.
Can see me put an ol vet out to pasture.
maybe i give you some pyro.
Simultaneously,......while i go over and squash an ol washed sohh poster.
in a janice conchairto finish.
when i put you throughed't It.





Art Barr
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skill wise hes correct. No one paints a clearer picture than Genius lyrically. Also flow always on point but......gotta have the work put into your career ie: DISCOGRAPHY. Gza has liquid swords which is a 10/10 album. i also like beneath the surface which id give an 8. Outside ofthat he dont have enuff work to compete with the rap heavyweights.

Unfortunately I agree.

What happened with him?

It's like he isn't close to fans, switched into Science which I doubt he has a degree in, and just stopped making hip hop.

That "Bobby said fukk spending 50 on a whip, but equip...make em flip"

Bothers me now.

Because he seemed beyond focused, and desperate to get his thoughts expressed from our of Brooklyn.

Then he just stopped.

Does anyone know about Gza's personal background and struggles?

I know Raekwon had a small family and Method Man's father was an addict, Ghost's brothers were sick.

But Gza, after all these decades he remains a mystery.
 
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