likely an older beat Rza had around
RZA gave Pun a better beat than he gave Biggie.
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Bugzbunny129
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Sounds like a 95-96 rza beat to me. Like a liquid swords throaway. The lil keyboard flourish over decks verse gives it away. Its when he started adding keyboard to his samples.
Imo it sounds like many other 96-98 era sample loop rza beats. Polluted wisdom for example; Both have the same snare pitch changes and keyboard synths for added variation.
Never mind it's the exact keyboard as well.
Imo it sounds like many other 96-98 era sample loop rza beats. Polluted wisdom for example; Both have the same snare pitch changes and keyboard synths for added variation.
Never mind it's the exact keyboard as well.
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Whips-n-Chains
Chi
I'll have the listen again, but it never struck me as an easily identifiable RZA beat. Also, LKG clearly had the hit team make alterations, pretty sure RZA himself has said this. Both don't sound like they were mixed in typical RZA beat fashion. Does anyone have the physical Pun album to go into the booklet and see if it says who mixed Tres? Edit: Google AI saying Carlos Bess mixed Tres Leches
Prodigy spitting twice over "Las Vegas Tango" sample...which was really getting around in that 94-96 period. Mobb, Common, Cypress Hill, BCC all sampled it.
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Mike the Executioner
What went on up there? Poppers and weird sex!
According to Genius, it was Carlos Bess.
Whips-n-Chains
Chi
That's what google AI telling me too. Maybe that's why it doesn't seem the same as most RZA beats, like compare it to "polluted wisdom" which dropped in 98, you can instantly tell that "polluted wisdom" is RZA. (not exactly sure when it was recorded tho)
MurderToCassette
Sa Da Tay
Wow, it’s the complete opposite for me
LKG has the melody but doesn’t bang in the whip like a RZA beat at that time would’ve
Tres Leches bangs and then those Roc Raida scratches
Like someone said above, it's likely because of the mixing. Carlos Bess (RZA's engineer for a long period in the 90's til Choco took over) mixed Tres Leches.
The mixing credits on LAD for Long Kiss Goodnight say RZA and Michael Patterson (who is credited as a mix engineer all over the LAD album). which is probably why it sounds more glossy than a regular Wu beat.
RZA's quote from the article:
"I wasn’t in the studio when they did that. I went in a couple of weeks after he did the verse. They wanted to mix it themselves, but they didn’t even know where to put things at. I had so many sounds in there. They didn’t know what the fukk I was thinking about."
The "Long Kiss Goodnight" beat was alwaysto me because the sample was used already on "L.A., L.A".
And I don't get the whole '"Tres Leches" doesn't sound like a RZA beat' thing. He had a pocket in the 90's but a gang of his beats sound nothing like anything else in his discography.
Fred.
Funny you say that, that's why I was always kinda whatever on both the LA LA remix and Tres Leches. I thought CNN dissing Dogg Pound on their own beat was iller, and that Gary burton sample had been ran into the ground by the time Pun's joint came out. I've come around to both now though.
Shouts to C12 too. Contributed so much to the 90s hip-hop we all loved without most people even realizing it:
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
Damn! Not RZA jacking other nikka’s beats
HAHA!! That's what Chef was saying about RZA in the late 90's though, when they were beefing.
That RZA was taking credit for other n*gga's beats, so he should just go get the dudes that RZA would jack credit from, when he worked on Immobilarity. Those same dudes did beats for Pun on both albums and were a part of Wu's American Cream Team. They were down with Wu, but made beats for Max B, Killarmy, Pun, Nas, Terror Squad, Rae, Jadakiss, and mad other people. But they worked as A&R's at Loud during the day. Rae said RZA was taking credit for their beats, lol.
Not true.
Not saying you didn't get it from Rae, but that shyt itself is patently false.
I love Latina women
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Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
Honestly I wouldn’t doubt it
Same dudes in the camp that decided to back Chef.
They were his A&R's at the label, and had already did beats for Pun and Wu. Rae said RZA was jacking their beats, and taking credit for them. LOL!!
That's literally what was said and what the word was.
"Not true". LOL!!
I'm saying what Rae said and 'the word' is false. What are you confused by?
You also portrayed Inf Ark as "down with Wu" when they were Loud execs and in house production first and linked up with Rae through that as they were working with him in building Immobilarity, Black & White and flipping Harlem Hoodz into ACT as Rae & Power's crew and not some bullshyt made up part of Wu that RZA was taking credit for. WTF
Also Tryflin was part of ACT, but the Dewar bros were not.
Just because you heard untruths doesn't mean I got to let you spread them without checking them.