RZA on Hot 97 morning show. Long interview...addresses Raekwon comments

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This is my way of thinking now and I'm sure it has a lot to do with RZA's eloquence and general credibility in my mind but I always point to this when my boy and I talk about this: If the money situation is so sideways, why is Rae the only dude who's complaining? It ain't like Meth or Ghost couldn't complain if they wanted to but they don't. This particular album shouldn't be about the money at all

You know what the worst thing is, this project could have gave him the platform to create some form of buzz for the FILA album. I didn't even know he was releasing an EP until about a month ago, when I Googled him after seeing him featured on that Gibbs album. :heh:

RZA isn't the producer he once was that's FACT but he still has it in the locker to create something special. We saw this with WTT. This whole production debate is irrelevant because clearly this debate is about money.
 

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You know what the worst thing is, this project could have gave him the platform to create some form of buzz for the FILA album. I didn't even know he was releasing an EP until about a month ago, when I Googled him after seeing him featured on that Gibbs album. :heh:

RZA isn't the producer he once was that's FACT but he still has it in the locker to create something special. We saw this with WTT. This whole production debate is irrelevant because clearly this debate is about money.

Word. RZA even said if you want to get other producers to be on the album, sure go get them. So all in all, it's about money. Popa Wu said it months ago and it's not RZA's fault or any other clan member's fault that Rae hasn't been on top of his business. This FILA joint better be heat rocks for all this talk about "winning" Rae is doing
 

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Word. RZA even said if you want to get other producers to be on the album, sure go get them. So all in all, it's about money. Popa Wu said it months ago and it's not RZA's fault or any other clan member's fault that Rae hasn't been on top of his business. This FILA joint better be heat rocks for all this talk about "winning" Rae is doing

:cheers:Couldn't agree more. I'll rep when I can!
 

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Dope interview. Rza should've let the Wu Elements produce this album tho. You know those dudes would have brought that classic Wu sound. Hell, to be honest, I would even be happy to hear new verses over old Wu beats. Let the brotherhood flip and rip those old cuts up. A true anniversary album demonstrating master swordsmanship.
 

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Why in God's name would anyone want a 20 anniversary Wu album not produced by Rza? I don't want nobody touching that but the man that made the wu sound what it is. Why Rea acting like it's a production issue when it's clearly about dough. Rea is not the most marketable Wu member. Meth and Rza are. This is about history and culture. Rza shouldn't be begging n e 1 to come to the studio for this. Notice he brought up NaS and ILLmatic anniversary cuz he was upset that egos and greed messing up Wu celebration. Rea is wrong and everytime Rea went away from Rza production the albums didnt live up. Great interview. He's right about the brand and logo wit members tryin to cake with 3rd parties. The bottom line if u want an anniversary Wu album wtith other production than Rza than hip hop cards getting revolked.
 
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Finished the interview. If this was a political debate, I gotta say RZA came out looking like Obama and Rae out here looking like Hermain Cain. Just a totally different level of arguments, presentation, confidence, etc. RZA looks happy, he looks healthy, he sounds on point. Rae sounds bitter, desperate, and angry. I love Rae but that's the truth.

Shout outs to Ebro and Rosenberg. Going in I figured they wouldn't challenge RZA, but they did. They brought up the numbers, contracts, money, all the shyt that you wouldn't hear in a random internet vblog interview.

Yall know my position: I think RZA has probably taken some off the top, and owning the Wu name gives him a lot of power...but at the same time, the other dudes in the Clan were clearly not good stewards of their money. The only one eating is probably Meth and Ghost. Deck is doing well enough considering Czarface really revived his career. U-God made a million plus during the Wu Tang Forever era and was making good money on the road, but it's all gone now and he can't attract a buzz with music. Same with Cappa and some others. RZA didn't force them to waste their money. So that's point one.

Second point about RZA: he has fallen off, production wise. I don't think he's a good musician, but he puts a lot of time into it and thus believes otherwise. He clearly doesn't want to pay for samples anymore, like most smart producers. But I feel like the middle ground would be to sample and have a band re-create it, then dust it up a bit.

Final point: you can tell Rae demanded a ridiculous amount of money, perhaps even 200k. Again, he is desperate and hurting his brothers. U God would take 1/4 of that and be happy, so would Masta Killah. Rae has not proven that he's worth the money. I get the impression he thought FILA would be his big return and prove he had market value...but he can't even get a release date and has NO hype. No singles are popping, no nothing. Not a single Wu fan wants to hear him doing duets, yet his first single is a duet. He looks at MTV and see Rick Ross and thinks he can be that nikka. But he doesn't have that clout or the beats. So Rae probably bought a bunch of knock off trap beats, trying to recreate a Ross song, and failed. Now he's sitting on tons of records but can't think what to put on teh album.

Conclusion: Wu is probably done brehs. You can tell RZA has been watching Nas this month. Nas has been the toast of hip hop for a month, has a big documentary out, and is now caking off multiple big tour festivals. That could have been the Wu, easily. They could have had Quentin Tarantino doing a documentary for them. They could have performed at the Grammys in one of those weird musical pairings the show always does (like Wu+Cher or some shyt). All the Wu would benefit from that shine and be making money RIGHT NOW. Wu could be headlining Coachella right now, b.

Rae would make more money with the Wu than without it. But he'd rather stay bitter and alone than let RZA "lead" him. And we the fans will suffer. At this point fukk it, I'd just do the album without Rae and not invite him to the tour. If he wants to tour small clubs by himself, so be it. Wu will be rocking festivals and stadiums globally.

this sums it up perfectly, really great post :salute:
 
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great interview
basically brothers need to work it out and follow the rza's lead so they can go ahead and dropped this album :yeshrug:
 

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Why in God's name would anyone want a 20 anniversary Wu album not produced by Rza? I don't want nobody touching that but the man that made the wu sound what it is. Why Rea acting like it's a production issue when it's clearly about dough. Rea is not the most marketable Wu member. Meth and Rza are. This is about history and culture. Rza shouldn't be begging n e 1 to come to the studio for this. Notice he brought up NaS and ILLmatic anniversary cuz he was upset that egos and greed messing up Wu celebration. Rea is wrong and everytime Rea went away from Rza production the albums didnt live up. Great interview. He's right about the brand and logo wit members tryin to cake with 3rd parties. The bottom line if u want an anniversary Wu album wtith other production than Rza than hip hop cards getting revolked.

What about an album with half the songs produced by Rza and the other half by outside producers?
 

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Had a typo at the end brehs, I meant they shouldn't invite Rae if he wants to act like this.

Another thing: RZA is making Hollywood money, why the hell would he care about rap money. Rae is acting like RZA is planning a steal from him, but why would he haggle over a few grand when he's getting a mil plus for movies. Doesn't make sense. Rae just sounds bitter basically, and wants to cut his nose off to spite his face.
 
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