Salary Caps Should Be Illegal

[Double Burger With Cheese]

The players literally signed a CBA for this, for the greater good of all 500 players in the league and not just for themselves.

Are you implying that NBA players prefer to have their salaries capped? Because this is not true at all. Just because something is part of a collective bargaining agreement doesn’t meant that’s exactly how the players prefer everything. They are agreements where both sides make some concessions. If the players had it their way, their would be no cap.

 

[Copy Ninja]

Yall keep forcing this scenario to where the league is ruined to justify yall agreeing with salaries getting capped. NBA players themselves do not agree with yall

It's a reality though. We have a prime example in Europe what happens when you have the richest teams grab all the elite players - the salaries on the smaller team players are gonna be lowballed and the competitive balance is gonna be out of whack. That's the environment you would be creating without a salary cap. And I keep asking this: why the fukk would you want that as a sports fan?

 

[CHICAGO]

Would like for your salary to be capped regardless of how much money you can generate? No you would not. Also, NBA players themselves don’t support caps on their salaries. A max contract should be illegal. It’s not way you nikkas can explain it away, the shyt is owners getting over

NO CAP NO FLOOR....

LET THE MAJORITY OF
THE LEAGUE GET JERKED
BY CHEAP OWNERS
SO A HANDFUL OF GUYS
CAN MAKE 700MS


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[Double Burger With Cheese]

It's a reality though. We have a prime example in Europe what happens when you have the richest teams grab all the elite players - the salaries on the smaller team players are gonna be lowballed and the competitive balance is gonna be out of whack. That's the environment you would be creating without a salary cap. And I keep asking this: why the fukk would you want that as a sports fan?

I’m a fan of sports but I’m more a fan of people getting paid their true worth. Under no scenario would I personally be cool with being underpaid based on my value, when there is more than enough money to pay me my value. shyt is extra egregious.

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

NO CAP NO FLOOR....

LET THE MAJORITY OF
THE LEAGUE GET JERKED
BY CHEAP OWNERS
SO A HANDFUL OF GUYS
CAN MAKE 700MS


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I feel like there can for sure be a way to set the league up where there is no salary capped and the integrity of the league is in tact. Baseball has done it

 

[charknicks]

Are you implying that NBA players prefer to have their salaries capped? Because this is not true at all. Just because something is part of a collective bargaining agreement doesn’t meant that’s exactly how the players prefer everything. They are agreements where both sides make some concessions. If the players had it their way, their would be no cap.

Not at all. Im saying that in order for the league to be sustainable, and for it to increase in money yearly, and for your bench guys to be happy and get paid, the top guys are willing to sacrifice a few million (which they can make in other avenues) so that the other players can get paid as well as you want them to (since they wouldnt have the jersey sales/ endorsements).

Im saying they arent just out for self. Of course they want more, but its not just about them.

Serious question: if you are an owner, and have this money, are you cool with paying your 6th-10th men who play 8-14 minutes a night $10 million/year each? In addition to paying your starting lineup $40-$75 million each/ year. You have the money, so just pay them, right? Is that not what you are telling these owners to do?

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

Not at all. Im saying that in order for the league to be sustainable, and for it to increase in money yearly, and for your bench guys to be happy and get paid, the top guys are willing to sacrifice a few million (which they can make in other avenues) so that the other players can get paid as well as you want them to (since they wouldnt have the jersey sales/ endorsements).

Im saying they arent just out for self. Of course they want more, but its not just about them.

Serious question: if you are an owner, and have this money, are you cool with paying your 6th-10th men who play 8-14 minutes a night $10 million/year each? In addition to paying your starting lineup $40-$75 million each/ year. You have the money, so just pay them, right? Is that not what you are telling these owners to do?

All im suggesting is players should be able to get paid their true worth. It’s laughable that you guys frame this shyt as being impossible when it is not. MLB has done it. No one team dominates it.

 

[charknicks]

I feel like there can for sure be a way to set the league up where there is no salary capped and the integrity of the league is in tact. Baseball has done it

Nah, bro. You can name players on each NBA team cause each team has good players due to the money being spread around. MLB, you couldnt name 2 players on half the teams. The top teams are doing great, but the league is cooked. And thats what will happen to the NBA with no cap.

 

[charknicks]

All im suggesting is players should be able to get paid their true worth. It’s laughable that you guys frame this shyt as being impossible when it is not. MLB has done it. No one team dominates it.

You didnt answer the question. Alot of the players in the league are getting paid MORE then their worth now. So are you ok with them getting less in order to have the top players get paid their true worth? Thats the 'no cap' question at hand.

 

[CHICAGO]

I feel like there can for sure be a way to set the league up where there is no salary capped and the integrity of the league is in tact. Baseball has done it

NOT SURE WHY YOU
KEEP REFERENCING A LEAGUE
THAT MAKES LESS THAN
NBA PLAYERS



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[Red Money]

It's a reality though. We have a prime example in Europe what happens when you have the richest teams grab all the elite players - the salaries on the smaller team players are gonna be lowballed and the competitive balance is gonna be out of whack. That's the environment you would be creating without a salary cap. And I keep asking this: why the fukk would you want that as a sports fan?

They not talking about sports. They not arguing competitive balance. They see non black owners profiting from black workers so they see a cap as bad.

They see owners as passive investors that should make little money...even though they risk a lot of capital. They want owners to take 10% of profits at most and 90% to go to players. Then they want owners to spend a lot of money outside of NBA revenues to get players etc.


Without a cap you would have the clippers (fanatic owner dipping deep in his own pockets) looking like the Olympics team with Tatum getting a couple of minutes per night off the bench...

 

[Shadow King]

I agree. Jordan , LeBron were way underpaid. These max deals today make it worse. At least in the NFL, there is no cap on the actual salary and individual player can make if it fits underneath the entire team salary cap.

Of course, lesser players like the NBA format, whereas lesser players would not like the NFL format.

This is what the NBA cap should be while the NFL cap should be more like the NBA (was).

The apron is a tough but effective response. The main issue was the 2010s salary explosion having iteams give max deals to 4th options for potential.

NBA has had a salary cap for 40 years and you cherry picking the last 7? We had exactly what you are talking about for the majority of that time. We just watched Brady and the Pats hoard rings and now we watching Mahomes and the Chiefs.

I used to agree with you. But the facts just don't support it and beyond that salary caps are nothing but and excuse for owners to control costs and be cheap and non-competitive. A true free market would force teams to compete and actually open stuff up more and moreover and more importantly actually be fair.

He isn't cherry picking the last 7, the last 7 show a level of parity that hasn't existed since the 70s. There are other reasons but salary is among them.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

All im suggesting is players should be able to get paid their true worth. It’s laughable that you guys frame this shyt as being impossible when it is not. MLB has done it. No one team dominates it.

Your suggestion doesn't make any sense because MLB is the exactly reason why it wouldn't.

Thinking that every NBA owner would magically gain this altruistic desire to fairly compensate players, when they currently don't is just rich.

In fact, you'd have the 70-80% of the league waiting for the top 20% to either retire or get injured so they can make what they're "truly worth".

That's not even mentioning the countless players who've commanded salaries far greater than their production simply because that's what the market dictates.....or because a franchise hoped the sample size of court time would actualize into what their per 36 says.

 

[Remote]

Goodness.

It’s like in the last week, everyone is making the worst possible threads.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Goodness.

It’s like in the last week, everyone is making the worst possible threads.

It's not that bad of a thread.... Food for thought on the hard cap