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Salt Lake is only ~45% LDS compared to over 70% the rest of Utah. St George is the largest city in Southern Utah and is around ~65%. Salt Lake is gonna be a lot less restrictive than the rest of Utah period...Mormons are on thateven more than regular white folks. There is a sizeable LDS population where I'm at now and it's already too much for me. Couldn't imagine living in a spot where they're 70-80% of the population.
I've met plenty of Mormons now, and ive heard the "behind closed doors" but not so secret racism they on. A bunch of they daughters and granddaughters go crazy at the sight of a black man, though
Vegas is fukking garbage, consider Salt Lake instead!Couldn't imagine living in utah. But then again I've heard Vegas outside the strip is trash so idk
. Will probably visit Vegas sometime next year though.
Salt Lake (29) is a larger DMA than Vegas (40), there's more people and more dollars in the general Salt Lake region than the Vegas Valley:What the fukk is this thread? Lmao.
Vegas is growing rapidly. Once NBA shows up, we'll have basically every type of major sports team.
Marijuana is legal, food is amazing, things are open 24 hours... The list goes on.
Unless you're looking for decent public schools or just hate the heat, Vegas and SLC shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
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So Vegas doesn't really have size in its favor here. It does have the fact that it's an international tourist draw in its favor, that brings in billions more in revenue that Vegas wouldn't even have...
I'll always have a problem with cities who neglect the locals in favor of tourists. Vegas is notoriously low wage. The black median household income in Vegas is ~$35-36,000; the black median household income in Salt Lake is ~$50-51,000. There's more of us in Vegas but we don't make as much and more of us are impoverished...
Vegas is going to reach a critical mass. It's in a high drought region, with a rising cost of living, and an economy reliant on tourist dollars to float the ship. NHL, NFL, soon MLB in town, all these entities competing with racing, golf, UFC, boxing, there isnt enough money here to sustain this long term. I'm not talking 5 years, think 10+ years. When tourism is hit again, where is the revenue coming from?
Salt Lake in comparison is an outstanding sports city. It has a larger market than Vegas so it could support more big leagues and in fact NHL is possibly coming here from Phoenix. It's an infinitely more beautiful city, greater geographic location, great restaurants, parks and shopping...
The reality is neither one of these places are elite spots for black people, neither are even B-grade cities for blacks. Maybe B- at the most. Different strokes for different folks but Vegas is one of the most bland, redundant, boring large cities I've been to, giving places like KC and Indy a run for their money...
For me, I don't care that shyt is open 24/7, most cities have a place or few with 24/7 services. I don't need the whole city open all night because I'm not out all night. I don't care for casinos inside every business, I'm not dying to gamble with my paper. Most large cities have good dining options, Vegas isn't cornering the market there. Weed should be legal everywhere so +1 to LV and the cities that are, but I'm a non-smoker. Most large cities have decent shopping...
I have kids and the health of the public education system is a big deal, also the health of the local black community matters. These things matter. Vegas is better than some places, not as good as others...
The Strip is the same type of entertainment district you can find in many places from Times Square to Wilshire or Hollywood, and many places in between, minus 1001 casinos. It's not that unique besides just offering a thousand places to lose your money at...
I can't think of anything I'd sell Vegas on, that other cities don't also do well, and in most cases do better. The Vegas infrastructure is terrible, on contrast SLC has a robust light and commuter rail system...
Vegas is not like that...
even more than regular white folks. There is a sizeable LDS population where I'm at now and it's already too much for me. Couldn't imagine living in a spot where they're 70-80% of the population.
. But then again I've heard Vegas outside the strip is trash so idk
. Will probably visit Vegas sometime next year though.
