Sam Bradford and/or Kelly has got to go - Analyzing the Deeper Issue in Philly

[Reginald Noble]

He is the common denominator.

The receivers don't have confidence in him or themselves because of his poor decision making skills.

Part of this is Kelly's fault he picked a guy who has to be retrained on our Offense instead of waiting another year for a younger guy or betting higher for Mariota or Hundley.

This game shows it. We are struggling against one of the worst teams in the league with 31st ranked Defense. It's the kiss of death for us. Our Offensive line is completely inept. We are operating on borrowed time.

Miami came up with the TD and made something out of the opportunity their special teams made for them. (Remember when we used to do that, what, seems like 2 years ago? )

This season is all on Chip. This personnel selection may on paper be good, but at the heart of the problem is:

THERE IS NO TEAM CHEMISTRY

When I see games being played I don't feel the passion or desire to win. I think Kelly has screwed up the natural vibe too much. Now that's fine if you are a veteran coach with 10 years exp, and we did need something new after Andy. But I think he was too idealistic. This is a mish mosh of talent, not to say most teams these days aren't. But there is no unifying message, theme or vibration. Every receiver has an every man for himself mentality and you can tell they are focusing on how do I get in tune with this QB, as opposed to "How can I score a TD in this situation"? The orientation and perspective is wrong.

I don't see any improvement. And a couple of individual players you can tell they are not fully on board with the Kelly system. I think Kelly's system works in college, but it can't work in the NFL. The results speak for themselves. The main thing it is lacking is: SOUL AND INSPIRATION

Most fans who haven't had Reid as a coach probably looked at him as a lucky fool who wasn't a deep thinker. Reid definitely is a deep thinker but what he lacked in Kelly's discipline he made up for in being able to manage a locker room.

The locker room right now isn't being managed, there is no loyalty. And as of late, there isn't much conflict, mostly because it's cold long before January. Players don't have a repoire with each other. When Shady, Maclin and DJAX were here things got hot occasionally and there was conflict. But there was some serious Offensive capability. It was a Dragon that needed to be tamed but powerful nonetheless.

But right now I feel like our Offense is a goat. It can climb a hill slowly sure, but there's no burst strength or ability to surprise defenses. nikkas are on the field and thinking too much. Their natural instinct is suppressed and it shows in the numbers. We can't put points on the board in the 1st half on average against good teams and our Offense doesn't know who they are identity wise. We can't get the run game going because our system is not working. Without the run, our pass game is doomed.

So something has got to go. The system needs to be changed, Kelly needs to be fired or Bradford needs to be benched. Something has got to change if we want to make the playoffs this year (or next year).

 

[KritNC]

I am ok with everyone of chips calls except for the Bradford one. Whatever chip saw in him is obviously not there and we need to start thinking about moving on to the next guy.

 

[Juggalo Fred]

Watch kelly go to Tennessee with mariota

 

[HarlemUSA]

Watch kelly go to Tennessee with mariota

As long as he gets the fukk out of the nfce

 

[MrSinnister]

Sometimes a team needs conflicting personalities. It initially creates tensions, but true competitors rise to being challenged by someone close to them. Anger can be a good performance enhancer. Chip is probably the only true dikk on the team now.

They don't seem to like or trust Chip, and they sure as hell aren't fighting for each other, outside of how Hicks was playing. . If we lose to the Fins, with the Pats on their way, the season is a wrap.

 

[Reginald Noble]

Watch kelly go to Tennessee with mariota

That would fukk Philly royally for at least another 2 years

Lurie better start scouting. The fans are getting tired of this shyt.

 

[JLova]

Kaepernick will be available

 

[Reginald Noble]

Kaepernick will be available

There are a lot of skeptics but at this point we need a passionate leader to develop a chemistry with the receivers and be someone that the O linemen can get fired up to work for.

Right now this is just going through the motions. If Kapernick can bring that heat then let's get him. But if he can't it will be more of the same problem.

Bradford is 1/2 the issue, but we need a more instinct based QB that can offset Kelly's methodical ways. Sometimes you gotta go against the coach's play based on what you are seeing on the field. Results are what matters in Philly. It's not about Kelly it's about the fans and the type of Football we want to see played. If you are not gonna win at least play the type of Football our fans want to see.

If we were absolutely spanking defenses I doubt the fans would care about Kelly's style. But the problem is it's unorthodox and NOT WORKING. And there's evidently NO BACK UP PLAN OF ANY KIND....

 

[FaTaL]

As long as there over .500 chip ain't going anywhere

 

[MrSinnister]

There are a lot of skeptics but at this point we need a passionate leader to develop a chemistry with the receivers and be someone that the O linemen can get fired up to work for.

Right now this is just going through the motions. If Kapernick can bring that heat then let's get him. But if he can't it will be more of the same problem.

Bradford is 1/2 the issue, but we need a more instinct based QB that can offset Kelly's methodical ways. Sometimes you gotta go against the coach's play based on what you are seeing on the field. Results are what matters in Philly. It's not about Kelly it's about the fans and the type of Football we want to see played. If you are not gonna win at least play the type of Football our fans want to see.

If we were absolutely spanking defenses I doubt the fans would care about Kelly's style. But the problem is it's unorthodox and NOT WORKING. And there's evidently NO BACK UP PLAN OF ANY KIND....

The thing is we can be spanking defenses. I can't see this game in my area, but I can tell what happened. Kelly tried throwing the ball or screens the entire 3&out 1st quarter. When he started running again, outside of those weird hybrid shotgun zone draws, the offense started opening up, which motivated the defense to get their own 3 and outs.

Again, I don't mind the zone runs, just bounce your fastest to the outside (Sproles and Matthews in that order) and hammer with Murray inside to outside when the D starts bending. When I say inside to outside...I mean have some runs inside and then some outside so the D can't key in and vice versa. We have the BEST RB corps.

So when the D gets tired of our X Weapon, we unleash Bradford's check downing.. The problem with Kelly is the problem with Reid on steroids. They want to win their way, instead of the easiest way given to them. They want to be the show, instead of putting their teams in the best situation to win with the personnel they have. With my formula, and Chip's scheme, we would be blowing out teams again. Know who you have!

But to answer the point, Kaep would be a lot better at the shotgun zone draw and a lot of other shyt Kelly's trying to do, and he needs a confidence infusion right now. I still believe Kaep can be a great QB, but shyt just ain't working in the Bay to build character, confidence, and consistency.

 

[Absolut da poet ®]

I didn't read all of that

The point is we had offensive play makers

And now we're trying to score touchdowns with Miles Austin & Riley Cooper.

*Vomit*

Who else would do this outside of Andy Reid and..... he paid Maclin.

 

[Reginald Noble]

The thing is we can be spanking defenses. I can't see this game in my area, but I can tell what happened. Kelly tried throwing the ball or screens the entire 3&out 1st quarter. When he started running again, outside of those weird hybrid shotgun zone draws, the offense started opening up, which motivated the defense to get their own 3 and outs.

Again, I don't mind the zone runs, just bounce your fastest to the outside (Sproles and Matthews in that order) and hammer with Murray inside to outside when the D starts bending. When I say inside to outside...I mean have some runs inside and then some outside so the D can't key in and vice versa. We have the BEST RB corps.

So when the D gets tired of our X Weapon, we unleash Bradford's check downing.

But to answer the point, Kaep would be a lot better at the shotgun zone draw and a lot of other shyt Kelly's trying to do, and he needs a confidence infusion right now. I still believe Kaep can be a great QB, but shyt just ain't working in the Bay to build character, confidence, and consistency.

So yeah he's basically been doing the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of what you suggested (which is what I would also predicted he would do). What is surprising is most fans have made the same analysis and yet the coach himself really just seems to be living in an alternate dimension. Reid's coaching didn't necessarily have a predictable rhyme or reason to it compared to Kelly. What is frustrating for most fans about Kelly is his IS predictable and therefore it feels like he is purposely testing things out and putting the team in awkward situations to prove out "theories" of his and get data of some kind. And this is no time to be collecting data it's time to be winning games and clinching the division.

I think the problem in general is the order of his plays is contrary to the natural game flow and he's trying to make things happen on HIS expectations instead of being more realistic. He is supposed to be "ahead of his time" with the no huddle but what his ego hasn't realized is Defenses are already adapting to our pace. They've already had 2 off-seasons to prepare for no huddle offenses and we aren't the only ones doing it now. For a guy who studies tapes so much I really can't understand how such a simple thing he can get so wrong. Only lopsided teams like the Giants or Cowboys have the biggest problem with our no huddle. These are teams with high octane O-lines and mediocre Defenses as of late. But the dogged out teams in the middle of the pack with no offensive weapons - best believe they are putting a lot of resources into strengthening their D. Kelly is not factoring this in at all and it's disappointing for such an analytical guy to miss such an obvious thing.

We have been running Murray too often and Sproles too late on possessions that have no momentum.

I agree 100% about Kapernick but like everyone else he'd be perfect on paper but I want to understand his intangibles and teamwork style - And at the end of the day only coaches really get to see that.

 

[Buggsy Mogues]

Chip has already checked out he's gonna go coach Mariota or go to USC

 

[Reginald Noble]

I didn't read all of that

The point is we had offensive play makers

And now we're trying to score touchdowns with Miles Austin & Riley Cooper.

*Vomit*

Who else would do this outside of Andy Reid and..... he paid Maclin.

Our big playmakers can't get TDs because we are running plays that don't maximize their strengths and that the Defenses are adapting to mid-game. So we are forced to make TDs with the remaining receivers. Kelly thinks this is "ingenious" but it's really not.

 

[Reginald Noble]

Chip has already checked out he's gonna go coach Mariota or go to USC

There is a 50% chance you are right.

This team is liable to fall apart if we can't get a new guy from within the league. We don't need another college grad.... We need an Offensive Coordinator who is ready to take the next step. Some new blood.