Sam Harris & Neil deGrasse Tyson On Race

[BaggerofTea]

Two great intellectuals discussing race

 

[Robbie3000]

Two great intellectuals discussing race

I was listening to this last night and there really wasn't a discussion per se. NDT says he veers from talking about race because he doesn't want to be labeled the "black scientists". NDT says he is going to write a book on his experience with race eventually and then he'll be able to discuss the issue.

 

[BaggerofTea]

I was listening to this last night and there really wasn't a discussion per se. NDT says he veers from talking about race because he doesn't want to be labeled the "black scientists". NDT says he is going to write a book on his experience with race eventually and then he'll be able to discuss the issue.

I can't blame him considering that people use race to marginalize one's intellectual prowess.

 

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Here is a better intellectual discussing race

 

[BaggerofTea]

Here is a better intellectual discussing race

Sowell is an intellectual titan although me and him are on opposite sides of spectrum. (I dont think he out rationalizes Tyson or Harris though). However he puts too much faith in market forces conquering human lack of reason.

 

[CHL]

Here is a better intellectual discussing race

don't compare this clown to NDT

 

[Robbie3000]

Here is a better intellectual discussing race

with this Super c00n.

 

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don't compare this clown to NDT

Of course theyre incomparable..different specialties.

 

[CHL]

Of course theyre incomparable..different specialties.

 

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Sowell is an intellectual titan although me and him are on opposite sides of spectrum. (I dont think he out rationalizes Tyson or Harris though). However he puts too much faith in market forces conquering human lack of reason.

His analysis is backed by evidence...I can understand why most people and in particular most Black people would have a visceral reaction to it because most of it is counter intuitive ...but if you put aside the bias and research you will find its accurate

 

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with this Super c00n.

That liberal open mindedness

 

[badhat]

His analysis is backed by evidence...I can understand why most people and in particular most Black people would have a visceral reaction to it because most of it is counter intuitive ...but if you put aside the bias and research you will find its accurate

In that video, he literally uses this line of reasoning:

1. Slavery in the US is mixed in with race more than anywhere else (I'm guessing he misspoke here, cause he argues literally the opposite immediately after) because…

2. The Declaration of Independence says all men are created equal.

3. If slavery exists, some men are more equal than others.

4. Brazil imported more slaves.

5. Therefore, not racial.

 

[badhat]

That'll get you a failing grade in any freshman logic course.

 

[BaggerofTea]

In that video, he literally uses this line of reasoning:

1. Slavery in the US is mixed in with race more than anywhere else (I'm guessing he misspoke here, cause he argues literally the opposite immediately after) because…

2. The Declaration of Independence says all men are created equal.

3. If slavery exists, some men are more equal than others.

4. Brazil imported more slaves.

5. Therefore, not racial.

Dap + Rep

That was severe intellectual dishonesty on Sowell's part

 

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@ this dishonest paraphrasing...you literally take 3 words and drop the rest of the context....

In that video, he literally uses this line of reasoning:

1. Slavery in the US is mixed in with race more than anywhere else (I'm guessing he misspoke here, cause he argues literally the opposite immediately after) because…

He Opens with slavery existed BEFORE race ..it was only recently it became racial and it became that way because if you declare "all men are created equal" then you have to justify why some of those men are in chains

so to get around that blatantly visible hypocrisy they had to classify Negros as not fully human...its not that hard to understand

2. The Declaration of Independence says all men are created equal.

3. If slavery exists, some men are more equal than others.

4. Brazil imported more slaves.

5. Therefore, not racial.

then you go ahead and make your own strawman....The example of Brazil is to juxtapose the difference..Brazil didnt have a constitution,it was a class and caste colonial heirachy so they had less problems ending slavery because the state did not have a rule defining who was human and who wasnt

its really not that complex bruh.