Sam Presti is overrated, and how we should look at GM's in the NBA

[Loose]

You just dapped a post than said Presti had freakish luck. You should be disqualified from even posting on anything related to the thunder until you can take your Thunder colored shades off and show the ability to be objective about them.

because he's lucky to have the skill to understand draft workouts=/= potential, he goes by gamefilm which a lot of gm's rarely do nowadays.

Also you named Aldrich and RJ

Aldrich, Is behind perkins I dont understand your retarded logic
RJ, Was a rookie none of his rookies panned out the first year
EM- Is a backup, one of the best pg backups in the league at that. everyones not a superstar idiot.

 

[Loose]

We'll the Horford pick was solid like you said. The Williams one was disastrous and we all knew it. But the Childress pick, again, brings up the luck conversation, because he was rated that high coming in.

What GM in the world doesn't take Durant second in 2007??

It was a can't miss, consensus pick in a draft with a big drop off after him.

were JH, RW,SI Cant misses?

 

[Roadie pipeher]

because he's lucky to have the skill to understand draft workouts=/= potential, he goes by gamefilm which a lot of gm's rarely do nowadays.

Also you named Aldrich and RJ

Aldrich, Is behind perkins I dont understand your retarded logic
RJ, Was a rookie none of his rookies panned out the first year
EM- Is a backup, one of the best pg backups in the league at that. everyones not a superstar idiot.

 

[Jram]

because he's lucky to have the skill to understand draft workouts=/= potential, he goes by gamefilm which a lot of gm's rarely do nowadays.

Also you named Aldrich and RJ

Aldrich, Is behind perkins I dont understand your retarded logic
RJ, Was a rookie none of his rookies panned out the first year
EM- Is a backup, one of the best pg backups in the league at that. everyones not a superstar idiot.

Maynor has a 11.6 player efficiency rating in four plus seasons. Nobody said everyone was a superstar, I'm not sure you can have a conversation without exaggerating and insulting people, but saying Maynor is one of the best backup PG's in the league when he has played 15 minutes per game and shot 41 percent form the field is, based on facts, 'retarded'.

Aldrich is behind Perkins, but Perkins is barely an average player. And it's not just that. His coach hasn't given him any minutes at all.

You only want to higlight him drafting two all stars, which is largely fortune, and don't care about his misses.

 

[Jram]

were JH, RW,SI Cant misses?

If they don't take Westbrook, they have they have to settle for Kevin Love of all people. That draft was pretty special.

Westbrook wouldn't have feel past No. 7 is the Thunder didn't take him. And nobody expected him to be what he became or he would have gone higher than fourth. Your playing the results and giving a GM credit for a guy becoming a superstar. That's irresponsible.

 

[Jram]

Ibaka was a great pick though. He gets the credit for that one. Just like Aldrich and Maynor probably won't ever be anything in the league, and Jackson might, but that's questionable. So he hit on one of four late 1st rounders, and that's your guru?

We all would have taken Durant and if not Westbrook, Love. We would be good.

 

[Loose]

If they don't take Westbrook, they have they have to settle for Kevin Love of all people. That draft was pretty special.

Westbrook wouldn't have feel past No. 7 is the Thunder didn't take him. And nobody expected him to be what he became or he would have gone higher than fourth. Your playing the results and giving a GM credit for a guy becoming a superstar. That's irresponsible.

Ahh this is where hindsight drafting come's into place, presti would have drafted the same love that a lot of gms believed would be a bust because of athelicism issues. This is why your whole analysis is retarded its easy to say "westbrook and love" would have been easy selections now when they're stars versus the past when westbrook was a considered a huge reach. Presti gets all the credit I know for a fact westbrook wouldnt be the same player he is today without the proper player development and teammates; a lot of coaches would have sat him down after his erractic play.

 

[intruder]

We'll the Horford pick was solid like you said. The Williams one was disastrous and we all knew it. But the Childress pick, again, brings up the luck conversation, because he was rated that high coming in.

What GM in the world doesn't take Durant second in 2007??

It was a can't miss, consensus pick in a draft with a big drop off after him.

Well like i said give him credit for getting the ones he should have gotten right right!

Unlike some others.

Who else would have picked Shelden Williams 5th with Rudy Gay and Brandon Roy left on the board? This is not a rhetorical question. I am asking because i honestly don't know since i don't follow college sports.

And Rajon Rondo was in that draft too

 

[Jram]

Well like i said give him credit for getting the ones he should have gotten right right!

Unlike some others.

Who else would have picked Shelden Williams 5th with Rudy Gay and Brandon Roy left on the board? This is not a rhetorical question. I am asking because i honestly don't know since i don't follow college sports.

And Rajon Rondo was in that draft too

I feel like when you pick a player where he is expected to go, and it's a consensus, if he plays to his projection or around that area it's fair to give the proper credit. but if a guy explodes into a hall of famer or is a bust, I think that's a fluctuation that is mostly a result of luck.

So I don't kill the Blazers for Oden. And I don't glorify the Thunder for Durant.

 

[Loose]

Let's get this straight right now, the only easy part about drafting is the #1 selection and even that can turn into a bust.


the same guy who drafted TP with the 28th pick is overrated? fakkit.

 

[Jram]

Perry Jones dropped because of knee and character concerns. It's not like Presti found him.

 

[Loose]

I said tony Parker not pj3

 

[intruder]

I feel like when you pick a player where he is expected to go, and it's a consensus, if he plays to his projection or around that area it's fair to give the proper credit. but if a guy explodes into a hall of famer or is a bust, I think that's a fluctuation that is mostly a result of luck.

So I don't kill the Blazers for Oden. And I don't glorify the Thunder for Durant.

So you want your GM to make his decisions based on popular opinions?

What about working out the players on your own. If you see someone slated at 4 but you like him better than the one slated at 2 so you're gonna go with the popular opinion?

 

[AVXL]

You can say he's overrated just like anything else in sports

BUT

Call it luck all you want you gotta Give the man props for playing the hands he was dealt well. Sure he had high picks at 2,3 and 4 for Durant, Harden and Wesbrook but there have been other GMs that had these picks and fukked them up badly

Look at the Hawks for example

• 2nd pick wasted on Marvin Williams when Chris Paul and Deron were on the board
• 6th pick wasted on Josh Childress when Iguodala and many others were on the board
• 5th pick on Shelden Williams. Nuff said.
• 3rd pick on Al Horford. (His only good lottery pick)
• 11th pick on Acie Law

Every year Hawks fans get all hyped up for the draft and i just sit there and wait for the comedy to ensue

Hawks fans get excited about the draft? No negro more like Hawks fans DREAD the draft because either we don't have a high enough pick to draft an impact player or we spend a lottery pick on a Williams (see Marvin, see Sheldon).

@ OP, you been trolling the Thunder pretty hard for no reason & looking sorta foolish in the process. What's the deal?

 

[threattonature]

I feel like when you pick a player where he is expected to go, and it's a consensus, if he plays to his projection or around that area it's fair to give the proper credit. but if a guy explodes into a hall of famer or is a bust, I think that's a fluctuation that is mostly a result of luck.

So I don't kill the Blazers for Oden. And I don't glorify the Thunder for Durant.

But you should get huge credit when you reach for a guy the way they did for Harden and Westbrook and they turn out to be stars. That means the GM did his homework and saw something that nobody else did.