Sanders will target Trump's tax breaks in new legislation

[88m3]

Yet there is a greater example of social collapse with too big of governments, rarely too small governments.
Look at Rome, various Egyptian dyanasties, various Chinese dynasties, French dynasties, French empire, spanish empire, fall of UK empire, USSR, and now the US.

They're not comparable.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Just as broad as your contention that small governments lead to societal collapse.
Nah not just as broad, more targeted than your statement.

You definitely listed examples where large government is not the sole reason for their societies collapse...that shyt is disingenuous at best breh

 

[David_TheMan]

They're not comparable.

Yes they are comparable actually.

It's only replacing the F-16 squadron for what it's worth.



"The Vermont senator's past support for drastic military cuts may help in the primary but hurt in the general election".

Bernie Sanders versus the Pentagon

Nope he voted for the F-35 program (a complete failure) and its placement in Vermont
Bernie Sanders Loves This $1 Trillion War Machine

 

[88m3]

Yes they are comparable actually.



Nope he voted for the F-35 program (a complete failure) and its placement in Vermont
Bernie Sanders Loves This $1 Trillion War Machine

They aren't for numerous reasons.



The F-16 has to be replaced. I swear this a kingsidiot alias. Can you read?



Sorry but you can't right your free market libertarian nonsense without the military.

 

[David_TheMan]

You definitely listed examples where large government is not the sole reason for their societies collapse...that shyt is disingenuous at best breh

Except large government, overspending, overregulation, led to fall in production, mistrust of central authority, and want of the citizenry for the fall of governments in power.

Not disingenous at all actually, just noting of economic reality in those various states.

 

[David_TheMan]

They aren't for numerous reasons.



The F-16 has to be replaced. I swear this a kingsidiot alias. Can you read?



Sorry but you can't right your free market libertarian nonsense without the military.

They are for numberous reasons.
Easy.

F-16 has no retirement date, and in 2014 the US requested info on buying 300 more F-16s. Where as the F-35 program has wasted Trillions of dollars, not produced a functioning fighter, a less than reliable bomber, not enough armament to provide as adequate CAS, ie fails in every metric.
So the question i have for you is can you read?

I find it funny how you try to deflect for Bernie being a huge military spender, ie part of the problem. Bernie is a fraud.

 

[FAH1223]

F-35 is a failure

Wasteful failure

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Except large government, overspending, overregulation, led to fall in production, mistrust of central authority, and want of the citizenry for the fall of governments in power.

Not disingenous at all actually, just noting of economic reality in those various states.

Broad generalizations and ignorance of specific facts as well as societal states.

Overspending and Mistrust of Central Authority is on the people. If people are not taking an active role in the political process and holding their government and elected officials responsible for their transgressions then they have no one to blame but themselves and the system that they themselves voted or instituted.

I won't dignify that overregulation nonsense because history has shown, time and time again what happens when you allow businesses to do whatever the fukk they want in this country and countries all around the world.

 

[88m3]

They are for numberous reasons.
Easy.

F-16 has no retirement date, and in 2014 the US requested info on buying 300 more F-16s. Where as the F-35 program has wasted Trillions of dollars, not produced a functioning fighter, a less than reliable bomber, not enough armament to provide as adequate CAS, ie fails in every metric.
So the question i have for you is can you read?

I find it funny how you try to deflect for Bernie being a huge military spender, ie part of the problem. Bernie is a fraud.

It was created to replace the f-16...


Bernie is a hero!

 

[David_TheMan]

Broad generalizations and ignorance of specific facts as well as societal states.

Overspending and Mistrust of Central Authority is on the people. If people are not taking an active role in the political process and holding their government and elected officials responsible for their transgressions then they have no one to blame but themselves and the system that they themselves voted or instituted.

I won't dignify that overregulation nonsense because history has shown, time and time again what happens when you allow businesses to do whatever the fukk they want in this country and countries all around the world.

You also made broader generalizations.
I'm not ignoring the specific facts of the states I mentioned, I actually know what i'm talking about as well.

Overspending and mistrust is a result of poor government, in every case, a part of big government, especially states that engage in welfare. Its the people's fault that those in power abuse their power, not the people who abuse their power. Wow you use the same logic as a person who blames a woman for getting raped for wearing something too sexy. SMH

You won't present a argument about overregulation because you have no competent argument to give or you aren't sure you can actually defend it, thats okay, but saying you won't argue is not in itself a argument, its more a admission of your own incapability.

 

[David_TheMan]

It was created to replace the f-16...


Bernie is a hero!

yet 300 more F-16s requistioned in 2014 and no retirement date.
It was supposed to do a lot of things, it failed in every single objective and its proven to be a absolute waste in the people's money, yet Bernie still wants more money spent, more money spent on bases to house it in his home state.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

You also made broader generalizations.
I'm not ignoring the specific facts of the states I mentioned, I actually know what i'm talking about as well.

Overspending and mistrust is a result of poor government, in every case, a part of big government, especially states that engage in welfare. Its the people's fault that those in power abuse their power, not the people who abuse their power. Wow you use the same logic as a person who blames a woman for getting raped for wearing something too sexy. SMH

You won't present a argument about overregulation because you have no competent argument to give or you aren't sure you can actually defend it, thats okay, but saying you won't argue is not in itself a argument, its more a admission of your own incapability.

That's a bit much dude. Seriously.

Also again, history has shown that regulation works to the benefit of the people and the country overall especially in the cases where businesses try to shed blame for actions that may harm the country and the markets. We have seen it in oil spills, we have seen it in prescription drug cases, we have seen it in the transportation industry, we have seen it in the electronics industry, etc.

 

[David_TheMan]

That's a bit much dude. Seriously.

Also again, history has shown that regulation works to the benefit of the people and the country overall especially in the cases where businesses try to shed blame for actions that may harm the country and the markets. We have seen it in oil spills, we have seen it in prescription drug cases, we have seen it in the transportation industry, we have seen it in the electronics industry, etc.

Not too much at all, its called hyperbole, and it got the point across i was trying to convey very well and very clear.

History has shown government forced regulation has always been used as a artificial barrier to entry into markets and to increase business entrenchment in government, not the always publiclly shouted cover of protection for the people.

Businesses weren't able to shed blame when they had to be accountable for the damages that were produced, wasn't until government "acceptable" damages were incurred that you see the shyt you see now, a lot of it in this nation started by the robber barons of the gilded age. We see oil spills and we see government caps on what can be collected by the effected parties? Why do we see caps? we see scirpt drug cases and liability is limited, why? We see it all the time and folks like you never ask the right questions, which is why does the government and the regulators act to protect business more than to protect the parties hurt. The answer is simple, the regulations and the regulatory bodies don't exist to protect the people, they exist to protect the businesses.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Not too much at all, its called hyperbole, and it got the point across i was trying to convey very well and very clear.

History has shown government forced regulation has always been used as a artificial barrier to entry into markets and to increase business entrenchment in government, not the always publiclly shouted cover of protection for the people.

Businesses weren't able to shed blame when they had to be accountable for the damages that were produced, wasn't until government "acceptable" damages were incurred that you see the shyt you see now, a lot of it in this nation started by the robber barons of the gilded age. We see oil spills and we see government caps on what can be collected by the effected parties? Why do we see caps? we see scirpt drug cases and liability is limited, why? We see it all the time and folks like you never ask the right questions, which is why does the government and the regulators act to protect business more than to protect the parties hurt. The answer is simple, the regulations and the regulatory bodies don't exist to protect the people, they exist to protect the businesses.

You believe that regulations exist to protect businesses. That is right wing, libertard nonsense. Period.

The 1930's alone disproves that crackpot line of thinking

 

[David_TheMan]

You believe that regulations exist to protect businesses. That is right wing, libertard nonsense. Period.

Yes I do and I've told you guy, the word regulatory capture didn't just start to appear.
As for your critique, calling something nonsense, doesn't amount to an actual argument.