Sandy Hook Survivor also survived Michigan State University shooting

Prodyson

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Yeah there are lots of flaws.

You can't stop a crime before it happens.

There's no way an rfid chip would be able to determine whether a person not supposed to have a gun (violent felon, or innocent child).

Maybe you're thinking of a chip that would notify some hub whenever it's fired and it's location therefore if someone shoots someone in one location then drives 20 miles away that gun is still sending its location so it can be pinpointed, before it's ultimately tossed in a river or sewer drain or field, dumpster. Then at best they can say "well it's registered to Ron Stevenson at 1234 Jones street, let's find him."

I'm a grown man. My library says "no weapons of any kind." I still carry my gun concealed in the library. No one knows I have it. I've never threatened anyone with it. I'm not even afraid of a threat at the library. It's just on it me when I do errands and I don't bother to take it off. So what's the appropriate response to me carrying where I shouldn't be carrying? Lock down the elementary school and high school that are right next to the public library, send in the swat team? All for a man that is simply carrying where he isn't supposed to be?

You say it could limit. Any gun at any time could be used for a crime. A good cop could say "fukk it I'm sick of this shyt...then start shooting people". I could say " fukk it." and kill my whole family right now. The presence or nonpresence of rfid isn't going to stop anything.
Even if the end result is everyone throwing their guns away every time a crime is committed, you’re still limiting the amount of guns in the street. We can keep coming up with these random scenarios where someone could randomly lose it and start shooting, but that’s not what normally happens. You solve for the majority, not for the fringe cases that you can’t plan for. But I’m willing to bet that if you increase the ability to track guns to an owner and/location, you increase the chance of people getting caught, which will deter people from using guns from committing crime. I think that’s a pretty logical thought progression. Otherwise people wouldn’t scrape the serial numbers off guns.

From my perspective, it’s about making someone both less likely to commit a crime with a gun and making people hyper aware of how well the keep track of their guns… while also not taking away people’s right to owns guns.

When I say you can determine if guns are in place they don’t belong, I’m not talking about libraries and retail stores. I’m talking places like festivals about concerts. Atlanta just had to shut down a festival because they couldn’t control who brings guns into an event. This is just another safety measure that makes it more manageable.

Finally, it doesn’t matter what the resolution is, there are going to be holes. You’re approaching this as though we need to completely stop gun violence. And while that would be nice, it’s pretty much impossible. The goal is to deter and better respond to incidents.
 

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Even if the end result is everyone throwing their guns away every time a crime is committed, you’re still limiting the amount of guns in the street. We can keep coming up with these random scenarios where someone could randomly lose it and start shooting, but that’s not what normally happens. You solve for the majority, not for the fringe cases that you can’t plan for. But I’m willing to bet that if you increase the ability to track guns to an owner and/location, you increase the chance of people getting caught, which will deter people from using guns from committing crime. I think that’s a pretty logical thought progression. Otherwise people wouldn’t scrape the serial numbers off guns.

From my perspective, it’s about making someone both less likely to commit a crime with a gun and making people hyper aware of how well the keep track of their guns… while also not taking away people’s right to owns guns.

When I say you can determine if guns are in place they don’t belong, I’m not talking about libraries and retail stores. I’m talking places like festivals about concerts. Atlanta just had to shut down a festival because they couldn’t control who brings guns into an event. This is just another safety measure that makes it more manageable.

Finally, it doesn’t matter what the resolution is, there are going to be holes. You’re approaching this as though we need to completely stop gun violence. And while that would be nice, it’s pretty much impossible. The goal is to deter and better respond to incidents.

Scraping the serial number off of a gun doesn't increase the chance of you getting away with a crime. Police aren't finding dozens and hundreds of guns that have been used in crimes and saying ":yeshrug: we have the weapon, we just don't know who pulled the trigger" Having no serial number might help you illegally sell a gun. People that don't own guns don't know this so they can't tell you about it, but I can. Serial numbers are usually coded by year and month of make, if not year, month, model or type. The difference in a year, or a model or type could be the difference between polymer frame, and steel, could be round capacity, could be the way the barrel mounts to a stock. I have an 80 rifle. This came with a capacity of 20 rounds. During the 80s there were some shyt passed and long story short they changed the round capacity from 20 to 17. Now everything about the gun is the same. Only way you can tell the difference is by the serial number or by loading it. If I had the 17rd version I could sell it for cash, and just be like...well it's almost a 40 year old gun, but it's the one your looking for.....

I also have some handguns that were designed and used by police, and some by military. Now the company that that makes these handguns also made a civilian version, and they are close, but no cigar to the ones made and used by police and military. And the price point is worth almost double. Once again if I were selling the civilian version I could put up a huge long ad and talk about the history of the gun, the history of the company, how this company had a contract with the police or military and how they used this specific weapon and yadda yadda yadda and someone would buy it, get it..and upon further inspection realize, they just got duped. Returning a gun isn't like returning other shyt. Basically once the sale is closed, it's closed. That's why there's a lot of faded serial numbers or scratched off serial numbers out there. Resellers. Just because you have a gun without a serial number on it, doesn't mean you don't have the original paperwork either.

What's the theoretical solution to a firearm being detected in a place where it shouldn't be?
Once again, ever gun is legal, until it isn't, then it's too late. Every gun that has ever been used in a crime, was legal, until it wasn't, then it was too late.
 

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At this point, the person might as well say they survived more shootings than Army veterans.
 

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Yep that's the problem it's the gays y'all.


That post you quoted is such a crazy leap. nikka really tried to randomly turn gun violence and mass shootings into "Yeah but the gays tho!" :heh:

Like wow. This country is sick as fukk man. And it aint just the cacs. Thats the real reason this shyt won't change. Its infected way to much of the country. People really out here letting gun ownership be their whole personality because they got nothing else. I don't think you can fix that.
 

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That post you quoted is such a crazy leap. nikka really tried to randomly turn gun violence and mass shootings into "Yeah but the gays tho!" :heh:

Like wow. This country is sick as fukk man. And it aint just the cacs. Thats the real reason this shyt won't change. Its infected way to much of the country. People really out here letting gun ownership be their whole personality because they got nothing else. I don't think you can fix that.
I completely agree. I really don't get the obsession with guns.
 

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What are mass shootings. I mean y'all invented school shootings. That maga juice fukked your head up. None of that shyt is normal
Ok you were just trying to sound deep.

Sit your corny ass down. You're wrong. It's all economics. What's your solution again?
 

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Ok you were just trying to sound deep.

Sit your corny ass down. You're wrong. It's all economics. What's your solution again?
Ain't no trying here. But you should try to be cognisant with reality.

Lol @ it's all economics. Mass shootings and school shootings is all economics? Retard shirn

Did they give you a lobotomy at the ballot. Jesus Christ. Your diagnosis is WRONG. Cut the
 
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