Saudi diplomats linked to September 11 terror plot

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Thanks a lot for the info.

Based on the evidence shown in the intro the pro-US royal family has a very difficult decision to make.

Are the extremists more powerful than the saudi monarchy tho? They have to very powerful and im pretty sure the monarchy is probably divided between extremists and pro-US members...

CIA and the pentangon have probably been aware of this for years, but if there is an anti-western section with great power in saudi arabia that funded the 9/11 attacks, why havent the US helped the pro american monarchy cleanse this section? Would it derive in a civil war? Is oil stability a bigger issue? What about helping your enemy with the containment of iran in the middle east?

I would love to see the real strategy the US government is using right now towards The KSA and the rest of the middle east

Heres the thing, the extremists are the better of several evils.

You see ISIS? It'd be even worse. Cause as much as the royals may want reforms, they deal they struck with their pious population (remember this is the hub of Islam's iconographic cities and emblems) is one in which they are trying to stamp out a fire that they helped create.

We can't control every variable like you think we can.

Iran is becoming more of a player in the world and ultimately its gonna have to come to a point where the USA and Iran settle their problems (of which there are MANY, that most of HL isn't even aware of)

Energy is still huge issue, and now nuclear proliferation is. If Iran gets a nuke, the Saudis will probably make their own, or get one from the Pakistanis who they have an agreement with.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

If the saudi government is responsible for the attacks some of these questions emerge for me:

What are the reasons behind the saudis for this attack since saudi arabia and the us have a good relation?

One explanation i can think of is them funding the attacks looking to blame one of their enemies for it.

But then, was iraq an enemy to the monarchy of saudi arabia? What about Afghanistan?

Any coli experts on the matter ?

The Saudi relationship was always based on extortion...They have a lot of money invested in the American economy and use that as leverage to commit atrocities against the shia to gain more influence in the ME...

There are two muslim sects...

Shia and Sunni...

The Saudis who are Sunni want the Americans involved in ME affairs overthrowing Shia leaders...Iraq had a Shia leader (Sadam) on its doorstep...

The royal family probably had nothing to do with the 9/11 attack but many inside the government knew about it...They been directly funding sunni terrorists for decades...They see attacking America as killing two birds with one stone... They knew the p*ssy American government wouldn't blame the Saudis risking an economic collapse but somebody has to get blamed after an attack on American soil like that...

Enter Iraq...

 

[razassin]

Heres the thing, the extremists are the better of several evils.

You see ISIS? It'd be even worse. Cause as much as the royals may want reforms, they deal they struck with their pious population (remember this is the hub of Islam's iconographic cities and emblems) is one in which they are trying to stamp out a fire that they helped create.

We can't control every variable like you think we can.

Iran is becoming more of a player in the world and ultimately its gonna have to come to a point where the USA and Iran settle their problems (of which there are MANY, that most of HL isn't even aware of)

Energy is still huge issue, and now nuclear proliferation is. If Iran gets a nuke, the Saudis will probably make their own, or get one from the Pakistanis who they have an agreement with.

Sticking to the extremist section in saudi arabia; the us government has to be aware that the ones responsible for funding the 9/11 attacks are still free and will eventually have to pay the price. I can kind of understand the whole phenomenon from a geopolitical perspective better now and i can see why the us government may not take extreme measures at the moment since taking action against the extremists in KSA may end up in a worse scenerio than syria, afghanistan or iraq. Also the KSA relies on the extremists support to help with the cohesion of the whole state. But eventually something is gonna happen: the monarchy falls or the monarchy prevails over the extremists... Now that this is becoming more open to the general population there will be pressure on the US government to apprehend those guilty.

On Iran, i think they face the same problems as the saudis... Since they also have a powerful group of shia extremists on their side who are ruling, and this will make it difficult for them and for us to clear a path toward an easier negotiation process.

Hey i love this conversation

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Sticking to the extremist section in saudi arabia; the us government has to be aware that the ones responsible for funding the 9/11 attacks are still free and will eventually have to pay the price. I can kind of understand the whole phenomenon from a geopolitical perspective better now and i can see why the us government may not take extreme measures at the moment since taking action against the extremists in KSA may end up in a worse scenerio than syria, afghanistan or iraq. Also the KSA relies on the extremists support to help with the cohesion of the whole state. But eventually something is gonna happen: the monarchy falls or the monarchy prevails over the extremists... Now that this is becoming more open to the general population there will be pressure on the US government to apprehend those guilty.

On Iran, i think they face the same problems as the saudis... Since they also have a powerful group of shia extremists on their side who are ruling, and this will make it difficult for them and for us to clear a path toward an easier negotiation process.

Hey i love this conversation

the saudis are facing tons of problem right now internally. They're represssing their own population while trying to reform a failing economy. They're an oil state and even that isn't looking so positive for the future.

 

[razassin]

The Saudi relationship was always based on extortion...They have a lot of money invested in the American economy and use that as leverage to commit atrocities against the shia to gain more influence in the ME...

There are two muslim sects...

Shia and Sunni...

The Saudis who are Sunni want the Americans involved in ME affairs overthrowing Shia leaders...Iraq had a Shia leader (Sadam) on its doorstep...

The royal family probably had nothing to do with the 9/11 attack but many inside the government knew about it...They been directly funding sunni terrorists for decades...They see attacking America as killing two birds with one stone... They knew the p*ssy American government wouldn't blame the Saudis risking an economic collapse but somebody has to get blamed after an attack on American soil like that...

Enter Iraq...

I appreciate your inpunt into this dialogue

But what confuses me is the inmunity that pocess those saudi officials who funded 9/11. As i said before, if this information is just coming out to the masses, the government intellegency agencies must've had it for years.

I mean, there have to be variables that have kept our government from acting upon this information. Since we dont know them yet all we can do is guess like: the information wasnt 100% proved until now, the government thinks taking action against those resoponsible would make matters worse since it could destroy what we know today KSA... Or as you said, the government is being blackballed by KSA (which i doubt very much)

 

[razassin]

the saudis are facing tons of problem right now internally. They're represssing their own population while trying to reform a failing economy. They're an oil state and even that isn't looking so positive for the future.

You seem like you have great knowledge about KSA... From your perspective, what do you think its gonna happen to the state? Will it collapse? Will the royal family remain in power? Etc