Say It Ain't So: MLK Didn't Write "I Have a Dream" - Jewish Influence on MLK

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  1. futureDevelopment

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    This thread would be right at home on st0rmfr0nt.

    People have been trying to slander and take the halo off MLK since the day he died. Dude came, helped a lot of people, predicted his own death and was nailed to the cross. No wonder everyone wants to convince the world he's the devil.

    Regarding jews in general --- black people expect perfection of everyone but themselves. Get back to me when we don't have a gender war, color lines, blue vs. red, etc. etc. etc.

    I'm always amazed at how black people will make enemies of people who helped them, while citing talking points and false narratives of people who want to genocide them (eg. the jew-hating far right). ...But then again, you even find black men online giving credence to the idea of "IQ" that the nazis molest the psyche of your children with, soo...
    :yeshrug:

    I'm letting MLK rest in peace. He was a good man -- better than any of his modern-day detractors and slanderers, by far.

    "James Baldwin said he tired of motherfukkers getting off the boat on Tuesday and he's calling them boss Wednesday."

    Nah -- you should be tired of the people who let it happen. In fact, we give billions to these "fresh off the boat" people. Can't blame them for taking it, while not blaming black people for handing it to them.

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    I also heard Martin had BANK from all the public speaking he did. Meanwhile the only thing Malcom owned were the clothes on his back. Every time I read that part it breaks my heart.

    Two Kings gone too soon.
     
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    Wrong.
    Martin Delaney was the big proponent of that and he was advocating it with no jewish backing.
    That concept was taken by the Moorish TEmple and the NoI.
    On top of that Black separtism was also pushed heavily by non liberal funded southern blacks like Booker T Washington and TRM howard.
    Jews typically used northern and isolated blacks in the midwest.
     
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    60s civil rights movement was a sham and Malcolm X and the NoI rightly saw it for what it was, yet due to their own in fighting couldn't capitalize off of it when they were needed the most.
    The whitle liberals pivoted towards the Black Panther movement, a few good souls like Stokely Carmicheal and Bobby Seale figured out what was happening and they were eliminated.

    If blacks would have moved forward with the black seperatism but full equality under the law method, instead of allowing the jews and white liberals to move them to white acceptance seeking, things would be better now.
     
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    This is not to tarnish Mr. King's legacy -- and I don't feel it does it any way. It's about the state of White Supremacy -- and how even our heroes are victims. This isn't about Mr. King doing anything wrong -- it's about others using his kindness for their agendas.

    Thanks for your post :smile:
     
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    People speak of Malcolm X's views as though he didn't walk back some of them after he broke with the NOI.

    Nothing stopped or is stop Black people from separatism then or now. Civil Rights Movement fought for access and options...that Blacks( who literally built this country) had the same options and choices that everyone had, including the white immigrants who had just recently arrived here.
     
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    "jew hating far right"? Negro, please.
    Black people expect perfection from (jews)? Israeli ,please.

    I have tremendous respect for MLK, and all that he helped to accomplish....but his decisions,moves, and actions can be dissected and criticized just like eveybody else. Eveything just has to be put in the proper context so that people aren't monday morning QBing from the safety of 2018 talking greasy about the people who were on the front lines in the 1950s -70s..
     
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    The only thing he walked back was his devotion to Elijah muhhamod.
    He didn't change his views politically at all, his last recorded speech before his death was still advocating seperatism.
    The notion that he suddenly became an integrationist is a lie perpetuated by probably CIA asset Alex Haley
     
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    Do you guys actually study history, or do you just parrot things you find on youtube?

    If you've ever read the letter from a Memphis jail, you can see the style and rhetorical devices used are similar to the I Have A Dream speech.
    MLK was a reverend, and most likely the greatest orator in the last 2000 years. I don't know why you're trying to discredit him.
     
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    I actually study. I also provided links to sources.

    No one is discrediting Mr. King - we are just learning about others involvement as well.
     
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    Exactly! If you can’t make good out of having options, what good can you make when you’re back to not having options?

    The separatists need to just put their money where their mouth
    is, and go separate. No need to align yourself with white segregationists & get it codified into law... No need to take everyone with you... And no need to defecate on the legacy of those who fought & died so that we can have options.

    Pookie & Ray ray are a bigger problem for black people than
    integration. Many black people “integrate” just to get away from them...
     
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    Ironic — sounds like monday morning Qb’ing is exactly what you’re doing, complete with throwing shade at MLK, like the jew-hating far right does.

    But keep pretending like you don’t know what i’m talking about.
     
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    The separatist do -- they are concentrated in White America. They have had it "codified into law" for decades. Read "The Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America."

    How is "Pookie & Ray" a bigger problem for Black people?" This "Pookie and Ray Ray" line is so anti-black to me.

    Black people integrate for many reasons. And it's not to get away from other Black people -- it's for better schools, higher home value, more options in general -- those that were once not allowed -- and gained -- or faded during integration.

    The majority of them who did move -- got even more racism, rejection and violence from Whites. Whites in general was and still are segregationist -- and more segregated from us now than before the Civil Rights Movement.





    The truth is most of Black America didn't want to integrate -- nor did they. They just wanted equality and safety. But, many who had the means and education wanted to for more opportunities -- and because they were taught to make it -- meant living and working outside of a Black neighborhood. Sadly, many of us think this today as well.

    Mainly because our neighborhoods don't have the resources and funding they need. Which sadly, was caused by the laws, redlining, and numerous attacks that have been aimed at our neighborhoods since day one. Again read "The Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America."

    Robinson details the splintering of African-American communities and neighborhoods in his new book, Disintegration: The Splintering of Black America.

    His story starts in America's historically black neighborhoods, where segregation brought people of different economic classes together. Robinson says that began to change during the civil rights era. "People who had the means and had the education started moving out of what had been the historic black neighborhoods," Robinson explains.

    He cites Washington, D.C.'s Shaw neighborhood as a prime example of this because of how Shaw was home to a vibrant black community and a thriving entertainment scene in the 1930s through the 1950s. By the '70s, Shaw had become a desolate, drug-ridden area. "In city after city, African-American neighborhoods that …once had been vibrant and in a sense whole -- disintegrated," Robinson says.

    He attributes that change to African-Americans taking advantage of new opportunities, resulting in a more economically segregated community. "There have always been class distinctions in the black community," Robinson says, "but what I believe we've seen is an increasing distance between two large groups, which I identify as the Mainstream and the Abandoned."

    Robinson says that while a "fairly slim majority" of African-Americans entered the middle class, a large portion of the community never climbed the ladder. It's getting harder and harder to catch up, he says, "because so many rungs of that ladder are now missing."

    So as formerly segregated neighborhoods begin to gentrify; rents increase and longtime residents get pushed out. "What happens to this group that I call the Abandoned is that they get shoved around -- increasingly out into the inner suburbs -- and end up almost out of sight, out of mind," Robinson says.

    Source: NPR Choice page
    and...

    The next day, King was assassinated, and his hope of harnessing black wealth remains unfulfilled. Before integration, African Americans in cities like Richmond, Chicago, and Atlanta relied on black community banks, which were largely responsible for providing loans and boosting black businesses, churches, and neighborhoods. After desegregation, black wealth started to hemorrhage from these communities: White-owned banks were forced to open their doors to African Americans and the money that once flowed into black banks and back out to black communities ended up on Wall Street and other banks farther away.

    “We started to lose a lot of our businesses and support for our businesses,” says Michael Grant, president of the National Bankers Association, a trade group representing nearly 200 minority and women-owned banks across the United States. “That was the toxic side of integration.” The financial meltdown of 2007 wiped out 40 percent of African American wealth in the United States, killing off many of these already-struggling community banks (they were not part of the big Wall Street bailout). Tri-State Bank in Memphis still exists, but it’s among the few that survived. Only 25 black-owned banks remain in the United States, according to the latest data from the FDIC, compared to 45 a decade ago. At their height, there were more than 100, says Grant.​
     
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    The Far Right -- has many "Jews" -- plus let's not act like Jews are not White -- and can and still be Anti-Black. Here and in Israel.

    NPR Choice page
    American Jews are funding the far-right dream of Greater Israel. We have to end this - now | Opinion
    Paul Gottfried, the Jewish Godfather of the 'Alt-Right'
     

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