Say what you want about Rick Ross...but...

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I don't know if you remember the rapper "Boss" on def Jam in 1992. she was a female gangsta rapper and she got dropped once folks found out she was from the suburbs

which is retarded personally but whatever
Yes, vividly. She was Russel Simmons brainchild of a female gangsta persona that backfired. She didnt get dropped, she flopped AFTER the fraudulent background came about...really based of one of the facts that Def Jam has always put out credible, authentic hip hop...then she got dropped.


98% of the "gangsta" rappers from back in the day were not really gangster. a lot of them were pretend. some were gangsters, but wouldnt do half the shyt they rhymed about. some were Teflon thugs and did exactly what they rapper about, but would go to jail and get made fun of for dry snitching on records.

so yeah it's like you can't win
Yes, for the most part the streets recognized and understood this. You have to realize some rappers where a product of their environment and grew up in the life.

Also, there are gangster rappers, then there is actual gangster rap.


fradulent rappers were always in hip hop. if Twitter was around in the 90s it would have been realized earlier

The mobb deep v tru life segment in Beef II showed me how real life weak Mobb deep was. and made me realize they couldn't be the only ones
Only frauds in hip hop are gimmicks.

You cant compare rap beefs to street beefs.

Mobb Deep knows what it is to be in the industry and be held accountable for their actions.

And well....you see what happen to Tru Life thinking you can stay street and be industry in the rap game...
 

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Yes. Correctional Officers that I have heard of have been involved with drug smuggling and things of that nature.
CO's have to have a squeaky clean record to get that job in the first place. if you don't have a criminal record by the time you turn 18, the gangster life probably isn't for you :mjlol:

how many CO's do you know in real life? because I know a lot of them, from being locked up. and I can tell you, looking at CO's like they're supposed to be criminals is borderline retarded. for a lot of them, it's a stepping stone, towards becoming a cop. stop it with the ross stanning
 

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CO's have to have a squeaky clean record to get that job in the first place. if you don't have a criminal record by the time you turn 18, the gangster life probably isn't for you :mjlol:

how many CO's do you know in real life? because I know a lot of them, from being locked up. and I can tell you, looking at CO's like they're supposed to be criminals is borderline retarded. for a lot of them, it's a stepping stone, towards becoming a cop. stop it with the ross stanning

I'm going by how I see CO's on the news who usually do the smuggling shyt once they get the jobs and such.

And I'm not a Ross Stan. I'm not even a fan. You one of them nikkas who throws around that Stan word without actually knowing the meaning of it?

Just shut up entirely
 

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i recall the sam ferguson chapters and the final one.

Journalist Who Exposed Rick Ross Killed

Journalist Who Exposed Rick Ross Killed | Contactmusic.com

The hip-hop journalist who exposed rapper RICK ROSS as a former corrections officer in 2008 was shot and killed in Miami, Florida on Friday (14Aug09).
Don Diva Magazine writer Sam Ferguson's car was showered with bullets as he headed north on the Florida Turnpike freeway on Friday afternoon.





Who shot Sam Ferguson?

Who shot Sam Ferguson? | Diva's World

Well put 2 & 2 together :yeshrug:
 

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I'm going by how I see CO's on the news who usually do the smuggling shyt once they get the jobs and such.

And I'm not a Ross Stan. I'm not even a fan. You one of them nikkas who throws around that Stan word without actually knowing the meaning of it?

Just shut up entirely
ya exactly, youre commenting on shyt you know nothing about :stopitslime:


ive been here long enough to know the meaning of the word stan.. these 2015 posters can get the fuk on :camby:
 

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ya exactly, youre commenting on shyt you know nothing about :stopitslime:


ive been here long enough to know the meaning of the word stan.. these 2015 posters can get the fuk on :camby:

how is it something I know nothing about when I clearly just told you where I got my sources from. I have to know a CO personally to realize that corrupt correctional officers are a thing? what is even your entire point of speaking to me? you don't like Ross? cool. I don't care young man. like who you like

and wow, you've been on the coli for 10 years. I want to be like you when you grow up. all jokes aside.
 

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Its all true. Ross music has put him in the red. They have no recouped off ross which is why Diddy picked him up thinking he could do something with him and diddy told him what he needs to spit and how his image and nuances should be.
no stop it. All Ross promotion has been through self promotion. Deeper than rap he basically made all the videos and promoted it him self on the net stop. Ross was the hottest thing in the game when diddy started claiming he was managing him and Nikki. He gave diddy life when he needed

did you forget about fat boy getting his car shot up then cutting that check to the gds who were extorting him thru youtube :mjlol:
Ain't no checks get cut
 

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The ironic thing is, people claiming he's fake or making some massive issue out of it, can't actually prove he didn't do what he said he did. Nor can they successfully outline creative license vs. lying. They simply don't like Ross because they think they caught him in a lie and it angers them that he won't fall off because of it. People think because they have google and wikipedia that they are the streets.
 

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i didn't say 50 wasn't a juvenile delinquent. i said he borrowed another dude's identity with legendary street creed to eat off of.
That's not why he selected that name. He chose the name of 50 cent because as he said those italian mob guys hated nikkas. And he liked the way 50 cent moved. And he gave him credit from the rip.
 
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The ironic thing is, people claiming he's fake or making some massive issue out of it, can't actually prove he didn't do what he said he did. Nor can they successfully outline creative license vs. lying. They simply don't like Ross because they think they caught him in a lie and it angers them that he won't fall off because of it. People think because they have google and wikipedia that they are the streets.

Yeah he really run with Noreaga :mjlol::mjlol::rudy:

fukk outa here with that bullsh1t :camby:
 

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at the end of the day, his job description included searching dudes asses for drugs. im not really surprised that people feel some kinda way about that

The man was doing cavity searches,him and his buddys tearing up nikkas cells and taking contraband while the inmate watched:mjcry:,if you a C.O you writing nikkas up and snitching at some point.

Now fast forward he's a rapper and he swear he's doing it for all the nikkas locked in prison:mjlol:

Its dirty cops too,not sure why yall think its any less dirty cops than CO's,cops are just smarter and have more connections to get away with they shyt..

To make matters worse Ross flat out lied on Trick Daddy simply for being a real nikka and telling the truth,called him a liar and a fukk nikka.

He didn't have to tell everybody his business,but he lied and acted like everybody else was liars after the C.O shyt came out,didnt even apologize to his fans who he had looking stupid as hell as they swore it was photoshopped cuz Ross said it was with such passion and confidence.

First you Ross stans said we didn't have to like him or respect em,but we had to acknowledge his musical talent,folks agreed to that....Now you tryina be slick and get the respect too,based on horrible arguments:pachaha:.

Talking like he survived the same 50 Ja got erased by,talking like he got away with talking shyt about prime Trick Daddy who had all the t.h.u.g.s behind em:wow:,and would've embarrassed Ross on the mic....talking like nikkas don't basically get away with everything in modern day hiphop,Ross was just one of the first to get away with some fukk shyt...Ross was just one of the first sign we were in a new era where you could wear skirts,play gay,kiss men in the mouthbe a c00n 24/7 and people would still fukk with your music:manny:
 

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any man who looks to music as a way to be informed, instead of a book, or school, isn't that intelligent. I love Nas. But I'm definitely not listening to him to get life lessons. I have books and classes for that. I also have a father for that, which many hip hop fans do not have, which is one of the reasons I can sometimes excuse a guy for using perplexing like Chuck D, Hov, Rakim, Nas as some sort of father figure.
So you believe the ONLY information you can get is through a book..I dig.

Yet any man that cant receive or discern information thru any other medium isn't that wise.

Im not saying to use hip hop as a text book, Im saying take from the artist info you may have not discovered on your own and if it interests you..do research.

Also I think you maybe speaking on Rozay being able to stay in character which I peeped..:jawalrus:
 

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So you believe the ONLY information you can get is through a book..I dig.

Yet any man that cant receive or discern information thru any other medium isn't that wise.

Im not saying to use hip hop as a text book, Im saying take from the artist info you may have not discovered on your own and if it interests you..do research.

Also I think you maybe speaking on Rozay being able to stay in character which I peeped..:jawalrus:

Hip Hop can be very knowledgable and can teach you a lot of shyt, even the "ignorant" shyt, but to use it as a primary source of knowledge is faulty.
 

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how is it something I know nothing about when I clearly just told you where I got my sources from. I have to know a CO personally to realize that corrupt correctional officers are a thing? what is even your entire point of speaking to me? you don't like Ross? cool. I don't care young man. like who you like

and wow, you've been on the coli for 10 years. I want to be like you when you grow up. all jokes aside.
You just know what you seen on tv. Shut the fuk up when grown folks talkin
 
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