Science eventually leads back to God
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it was a storm on the sea of gallilee i thinkI found a good answer online:
Thus, instead of the confusion which existed when the earth and the water were mixed in one great mass, there was now order; and by such a separation, both were rendered useful:
God created order but separating dry land from both waters and then created whatever came next
Then the water was “waiting” for what’s next
Ironically enough, Jesus had control over the seas in that one gospel story…. Or was it the storm?
Anyways, I think things were too active in the beginnings of creation (the big bang), so God had to fine tune things for humans starting with the water.
I don’t think the “WORD” is water but sound vibrates water
why do you think the beginning of creation is linked to "the big bang"
thats not necessarily true and could just be an artifact due to the limitation on the understanding of light (the further things away from earth people try to observe it appears to be expanding faster than it should be etc)
remember it was just stated that god rendered "divisions" between waters
i posted it a long time ago but this idea is what comes to mind for me which is regions of reality with different physics
i dont think this is the same video but the implication that I made and others made is that the the scriptures encode mathematics, astrology, scientific principles etc
the movie independence day touched on it where they displayed to the aliens information that encoded multiple things in hopes of communication.
However that doesnt mean each writer in the bible did the same thing, which is why I still believe the Jews perspective of the 5 books of Moses being set apart is for more than one reason
IE imagine if a false prophet did not encode such a language in his words, would what comes out of the ground be pleasant to the sight and good for food...
the name "god" is actually german
God (word) - Wikipedia
"Gad" is just one of Jacobs sons
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"a troop shall overcome him, but he shall overcome at the last"
the name of God is the unique creator (The LORD God)
whereas elohim can mean magistrate, judge, ruler, prince, king, God etc
It's a logic loop. Something must have been fundamental but what created that thing?
Even if science would lead to One in the beginning, there is no reason to believe the nature of that One is explained in any man made religion.
Even if science would lead to One in the beginning, there is no reason to believe the nature of that One is explained in any man made religion.
We often show our lack of wisdom by forcing G-d to make sense to our limited understanding and minds fraught with illogical thinking/perspectives. That is both backwards and arrogance personified.
It's not on us to make G-d make sense, it is only on us to grow in the spiritual gifts of G-d - wisdom, understanding, knowledge, and many more.
It's not on us to make G-d make sense, it is only on us to grow in the spiritual gifts of G-d - wisdom, understanding, knowledge, and many more.
this is kinda left field but i think explains the dynamic
@Tair lets all imagine for a second a completely different backdrop to reality
instead of creation as an act on a world already made (or not made), lets assume the real purpose is just to create order exclusively for the reader
and that God is like the spies (go out and come back with the produce of the land)
it should mean that God could create a context to make himself and be where he should be depending on the readers need
but the formless world is now an endless conflict between space amazons and aliens
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music of the spheresI always understood the “force” to be Gods voice or “word”
So many “sound” as we would understand it in the material world. Sound waves maybe?
So your “electric universe” could be like the equivalent of sound waves or frequencies.
I know there’s some similar type of theories out there
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Sounds like comic nerds discussing fictional characters in here
Interesting.
Do you believe the order to be G-d's nature and the necessary context to understand G-d - i.e. as G-d places himself in areas necessary so the readers could glean a greater truth/understanding of G-d?
Example) I can tell you 2+2 = 4, and you'll know the answer but if I helped you understand the operations that make it true you will fully understand it, and can then apply that understanding to many different areas or problems without me helping you.
yes precisely
but it would be more like the "equals" sign
its there to designate what is on one side of it from the other (IE Genesis 2 between Genesis 1 and 3). On its own you would not know the purpose of it.
I linked statements about the letter Bet (which is the first letter of Genesis 1 in Bereshyt) which can lend more on how that idea can be construed
Bet (letter) - Wikipedia
so for instance when we read words we see the words themselves and the backdrop as just a substrate. But if you were to think "horizontally" there could be the realm of the symbol and the realm of the impressed upon
one side saying what is written is true, and the other always in reaction to what's written
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the name "god" is actually german
God (word) - Wikipedia
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"Gad" is just one of Jacobs sons
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"a troop shall overcome him, but he shall overcome at the last"
the name of God is the unique creator (The LORD God)
whereas elohim can mean magistrate, judge, ruler, prince, king, God etc
Was it Israel that defined God as the one creator God and gave him a “Name”/reputation?
@Koichos would probably agree
There can only be ONE creator.
Elohim is a more generic term for those who don’t necessarily “know” God on a father/son level.
But the issue is, others don’t like submitting to a ONE GOD that is defined by a specific group of people or a GOD which claims them as his own.
I don't know to be sure
but in Exodus God told Moses to say to Pharaoh. Israel is even my firstborn
so take that however you will
what I do know is that the Greek idea about father/son relationship started with hercules and/or Lycaon Zeus, Where they were feeding Zeus his own son to see if he was all knowing. Hercules famously was always going crazy and attempting to slay his own children too.
do you ever feel that way taking the Eucharist?
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Remember in the divine council I believe God chooses Israel as his “inheritance” or maybe they choose him by the forefathers faith and obedience
It think it’s more of a metaphorical thing, but how you understand God is key to that relationship
And history proves the father/son “children of Israel”/Son of God/ dynamic is the theme of those in the Bible and what Jesus taught
After all, we call God “father” and Muslims do Not.
Christians call Jesus the “Son of God” and agree that’s how the father intended it.
That tells you the difference between one religion and the other
what do you think Jacob meant when he said: I will divide them in Jacob, and scatter them in Israel
just curious