Sean Price was the catalyst for the underground/street rap resurgence

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I know everyone likes to credit Griseld and Roc Marciano for making that style of rap huge

But to me, Sean Price is the grandfather of that movement. From when Monkey Bars came out, til his death, he was pushing that Boom Bap NY Street rap rap in the forefront.

It's sad because he would be having the best time of his career right now. All these big deals and big looks that the "hardcore NY rappers" are getting now, he'd be one of the people spearheading it. Plus personality wise, he trumps all of them. He'd probably have his own show on one of these networks Vice, Revolt, etc...

Never really sat and analyzed the situation like this but you are 100% correct.

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it did not happen.
jiggy happened and instead of nikkaz dissing who they should have. They let mainstream shyt dictate to them. When all they had to do was stick to their guns. Which was beatminerz and online.
by following Pac dying and thinking they were cut off from this mainstream gateway in his death. Is what happened. When even if Pac did live. It would not have meant mainstream permeation at all for bcc and one nation.



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Sean P said it himself.
 

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Sean price took the wu/kool keith/doom ug blueprint and applied it to himself

Thats why he has mad interviews about supreme clientele. Ghost influenced him same way he did doom.

Labels like natursounds are like wu affiliated. All these guys got a resurgence from those releases. Fat beats too.

Im Talking about no said date selling big numbers ug wise in 2004 and the whole crews transition to the ug labels.

Wu meets indie culture was THE FIRST album blending all that shyt. Had doom, roc marci and sean price, on it way before the latters blew back up later on. That project spearheaded many ug movements later on.

And again with gzas album putting roc marci and ka on again in 2007 with roc having his own song on the album. That was what gave roc a lil spark to create his album under fatbeats, which then caught on when sean price did the remix of that one track.


Sean taking that influence and the bcc/justice league combo spearheaded the ug movement for sure.

But as to who started what? Its all linked back to pre 2000 rappers; kool keith, wu tang to doom, sean price to roc marci/them other guys


Its all right here. Every name listed. Wu. Doom. Sean price. Roc. To the bigger ug guys at that time before their fall off ie can ox, cage, etc. to yhe ug using all bronze nazareth beats. compilations like high times released in 2003 with all ug guys and some wu tracks, wu meets indie, etc. dreddy of royal fam was the a&r.

Add in the west coast movement. Dj shadow entroducing, del/tron, dr octagon, dan the automator, in 1996 along with all those albums praise. These albums in particular set off a lot because they came outside nyc underground and made noise making ughh a lil more friendly att.

All them movements together birthed ug hip hop. If i had to give it to someone itd be kool keith as he really etched it out extra early. Could even go further back to ced gee producing bdp as some of first boom bap with ultramag always being on lesser labels and being KING OF THE 12”s.

That with wutang entering as top dogs of the ug while still signed to majors gave the whole thing mad exposure and helped all these guys get noticed and become stars.
 
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Highkey he needs to be spoken about more
 

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Never forget when I saw him perform few years before he passed. At end of his set he just drops the mic like Eddie Murphy and walks off stage. Everyone was mad confused.
 

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I forgot that Monkey Barz came out a year before Return Of The Mac. Also agree that DOOM and Mega displayed the infrastructure was there for independent NY rappers to do their thing without the Koch stigma of being a failure that existed at the time.

It doesn't get brought up much now but can't forget when Marcberg dropped a few years later there was a sizable group of people calling it wack due to the drums. It wasn't as drum-less as Reloaded but I remember quite a few people dismissing that album for weak snares and using the sample's drums being "lazy."
 

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