Second Tesla Autopilot Crash Under Review By US Regulators

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The Wall Street Journal and many other publications are reporting that U.S. auto-safety regulators are currently reviewing a second crash that occurred while Tesla's Autopilot mode was activate. The Detroit Free Press reports that a Michigan art gallery owner told police that he survived a rollover crash that happened when his Tesla Model X was in self-driving mode last Friday. The newspaper didn't disclose any additional details regarding what led up to the accident and whether or not the driver was to blame. Last week, it was reported that U.S. regulators were investigating Tesla after a fatal crash occurred involving a vehicle using the Autopilot mode. Tesla said in a statement after that incident, "This is the first known fatality in just over 130 million miles where Autopilot was activated." They also said Autopilot "is an assist feature that requires you to keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times."
 

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The Wall Street Journal and many other publications are reporting that U.S. auto-safety regulators are currently reviewing a second crash that occurred while Tesla's Autopilot mode was activate. The Detroit Free Press reports that a Michigan art gallery owner told police that he survived a rollover crash that happened when his Tesla Model X was in self-driving mode last Friday. The newspaper didn't disclose any additional details regarding what led up to the accident and whether or not the driver was to blame. Last week, it was reported that U.S. regulators were investigating Tesla after a fatal crash occurred involving a vehicle using the Autopilot mode. Tesla said in a statement after that incident, "This is the first known fatality in just over 130 million miles where Autopilot was activated." They also said Autopilot "is an assist feature that requires you to keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times."
lets take a look at the manual

...How Lane Departure Warning Works If Model S is equipped with Autopilot, a camera mounted on the windshield behind the interior rear view mirror monitors the markers on the lane you are driving in. If a front wheel passes over a lane marking and the associated turn signal is off, you feel three slight vibrations in the steering wheel. Lane Departure Warning operates only when Model S is traveling over approximately 30 mph (50 km/h).

Warning: Lane Departure Warning is for guidance purposes only. Never depend on Lane Departure Warning to inform you of unintentionally driving outside of the boundaries of the driving lane. Several external factors can reduce the performance of Lane Departure Warning, causing either no readings or false readings. Therefore, depending on this system to stay within the boundaries of the driving lane can result in serious injury or death. Always keep your eyes on the road when driving. It is the driver's responsibility to stay alert, drive safely, ensure the vehicle stays in the traveling lane, and be in control of the vehicle at all times. Warning: Lane Departure Warning is designed to activate when it detects lane markings. It is not designed to detect the edge of a road. It is the driver's responsibility to drive attentively and stay within the boundaries of the driving lane. Caution: If your Model S is equipped with Lane Departure Warning, you must take your vehicle to Tesla Service if a windshield replacement is needed. Failure to do so can cause Lane Departure Warning to malfunction.


..How Forward Collision Warning Works If Model S is equipped with Autopilot,
a camera mounted on the windshield behind the interior rear view mirror and a radar sensor in the center of the front grill monitor the area in front of Model S for the presence of a vehicle, bike or pedestrian. If a collision is considered likely unless you take immediate corrective action, Forward Collision Warning is designed to provide visual and audible warnings. The cameras and sensors associated with Forward Collision Warning are designed to monitor an approximate area of up to 525 feet (160 meters) in the driving path, as illustrated below.
Warning: The area being monitored by Forward Collision Warning can be adversely affected by road and weather conditions (see Limitations on page 58). Use appropriate caution when driving. Caution: If your Model S is equipped with Forward Collision Warning, you must take your vehicle to Tesla Service if a windshield replacement is needed. Failure to do so can cause Forward Collision Warning to malfunction.

Warning: Forward Collision Warning does not operate when Model S is traveling less than 4 mph (7 km/h). Warning: Forward Collision Warning is designed only to provide visual and audible alerts (see Visual and Audible Feedback on page 58). It does not attempt to apply the brakes or decelerate Model S. When seeing and/or hearing a warning (described below), it is the driver's responsibility to immediately take an appropriate action.

Warning
: Forward Collision Warning is for guidance purposes only and is not a substitute for attentive driving and sound judgement. Always keep your eyes on the road when driving and never depend on Forward Collision Warning to warn you of a potential collision. Several factors can reduce the performance of Forward Collision Warning, causing either unnecessary, invalid, inaccurate, or missed warnings (see Limitations on page 58). Depending on Forward Collision Warning to warn you of a potential collision can result in serious injury or death. Visual and Audible Feedback When a collision with a vehicle, bicycle, or pedestrian is considered likely unless immediate action is taken, Forward Collision Warning is designed to sound an audible alert and display a collision warning in the center of the instrument panel. Warnings cancel automatically when the risk of a collision has been reduced (for example, you have decelerated or stopped Model S, or a vehicle in front has moved out of your driving path). Warning: Forward Collision Warning may provide a warning in situations where the likelihood of collision may not exist. Stay alert and always pay attention to the area in front of Model S so you can anticipate whether any action is required. Controlling Forward Collision Warning To turn Forward Collision Warning off or adjust its sensitivity, touch Controls > Settings > Driver Assistance > Forward Collision Warning. Instead of the default warning level of Medium, you can turn the warning Off, or you can choose to be warned Late or Early. Note: Your chosen setting is retained until you manually change it. It can also be saved in your driver profile. Limitations Forward Collision Warning cannot always detect vehicles, bikes, or pedestrians, and you may experience unnecessary, inaccurate, invalid or missed warnings for many reasons, particularly if: • The road has sharp curves.

• Visibility is poor (due to heavy rain, snow, fog, etc.). • Bright light (oncoming headlights or direct sunlight) is interfering with the camera's view. • The radar sensor in the center of the front grill is obstructed (dirty, covered, etc.). • The windshield area in the camera's field of view is obstructed (fogged over, dirty, covered by a sticker, etc.).

Warning: The list above does not represent an exhaustive list of situations that may interfere with proper operation of Forward Collision Warning. Forward Collision Warning may fail to provide warnings for many other reasons. To avoid a collision, stay alert and always pay attention to the area in front of Model S so you can anticipate the need to take corrective action as early as possible.

I think you get the point. in the manual there are TONS and TONS of "WARNING" labels.

https://www.teslamotors.com/sites/default/files/Model-S-Owners-Manual.pdf


if you choose to use autopilot like you're in a self flying spacecraft in the future of 3035. thats on you. Thats not what it's intended for. It's suppose to assist you in a number of ways. To help your driving experience. and can actually aid you in having less and less accidents. But if you blindly turn it on and dont pay attention(start reading a book, or texting on your cell phone, etc, etc, etc. then you have chosen to blow past all of the warnings telling you to pay attention. if you get into a crash, who's fault is it? YOURS.

now if there was some other malfunction even while you were driving the car and paying attention. and it abruptly caused you to crash. then thats on Tesla or any other automaker with an autopilot like feature.

and lastly. i know these accidents scare people to death.

But the truth is. Humans will probably cause many more accidents, than if we all had self driving cars with solid programming in the software. a computer will do a better job of regulating all of traffic. vs each individual with all of our quirks, bad habits, etc trying to regulate themselves or not regulate themselves.

Speeding would only occur when there was a malfunction. odds are, it would malfunction a lot less than people speed on purpose.

Think about that for a moment.
 

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lets take a look at the manual





I think you get the point. in the manual there are TONS and TONS of "WARNING" labels.

https://www.teslamotors.com/sites/default/files/Model-S-Owners-Manual.pdf


if you choose to use autopilot like you're in a self flying spacecraft in the future of 3035. thats on you. Thats not what it's intended for. It's suppose to assist you in a number of ways. To help your driving experience. and can actually aid you in having less and less accidents. But if you blindly turn it on and dont pay attention(start reading a book, or texting on your cell phone, etc, etc, etc. then you have chosen to blow past all of the warnings telling you to pay attention. if you get into a crash, who's fault is it? YOURS.

now if there was some other malfunction even while you were driving the car and paying attention. and it abruptly caused you to crash. then thats on Tesla or any other automaker with an autopilot like feature.

and lastly. i know these accidents scare people to death.

But the truth is. Humans will probably cause many more accidents, than if we all had self driving cars with solid programming in the software. a computer will do a better job of regulating all of traffic. vs each individual with all of our quirks, bad habits, etc trying to regulate themselves or not regulate themselves.

Speeding would only occur when there was a malfunction. odds are, it would malfunction a lot less than people speed on purpose.

Think about that for a moment.
Did someone hack your account?:ohhh:

You're using paragraphs and proper spacing in your post and your post is very well constructed. Damn near said everything I was going to say.

Have your first dap from me breh... :dwillhuh:

But yeah, you're not supposed to go to sleep and let this shyt drive you or watch movies like that other guy did. You still need to be active.
 

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What's the point of having autopilot if you still need to keep your hands on the wheel the whole time

These drivers just dont get it... unless your shyt is a fully incredible AI with perfect timing I would NOT trust that shyt to make a mistake... :heh:
 

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A car not being steered crashed :ohhh: this shyt crazy brehs, stay safe
 

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these morons need to have their licenses taken if they survive an autopilot crash and then they should have to take a test to get the license reinstated. tesla tells you not to abuse the feature, but people want to kick back like george jetson
 

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:manny: dumbasses do this shyt all the time in other cars too..that dont even have autopilot

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I dont get why theyre blaming the car
 

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Did someone hack your account?:ohhh:

You're using paragraphs and proper spacing in your post and your post is very well constructed. Damn near said everything I was going to say.

Have your first dap from me breh... :dwillhuh:

But yeah, you're not supposed to go to sleep and let this shyt drive you or watch movies like that other guy did. You still need to be active.
i'm this close to negging you . This aint english class and you're not my professor nor my editor. This is a thing called the internets. Weez types as we feels. as long as you can understand what is being said....respond or not.
 

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:manny: dumbasses do this shyt all the time in other cars too..that dont even have autopilot

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I dont get why theyre blaming the car
which was my point. Here's the reality. if i turn on autopilot or self driving cars for every single car in a city/america. If i do it utilizing the best maps, best sensors, all the rules of the road and best merging, turning, and intersection movement(who goes first, etc). if i put all of that information into my software. i can guarantee you a computer version driver would be safer if it was in every single car. Then regular humans driving right now. with that said, accidents will still happen. Why? because computers malfunction from time to time. sensors go out. people dont get things checked as often as they should setting up a scenario where the sensor doesnt work properly bam, you run into someone/something. But it will still kill a lot less people than a bunch of humans with different levels of driving experience/good and bad habits.

What if i told you self driving cars would take every single drunk driver off the road. even if you take into account computer failure and hardware failure(sensors, etc). If you know anything about automating tasks. You already know that in this scenario there would be a lot less deaths than their currently are. but most people can't think that far. all they see is "oh nooooo, i dont have control so it must be worse." WRONG. the fact you have too much control is making it worse right now.

I'll give you one last example of this. Humans design cars right now that go faster than the speed limit. Does anyone know why? lets say the highest speed limit in the US is 80mph. Why is a car able to go 100mph? There is no logical reason for that when you're thinking of Safe driving practices. The reason is because people like power and people like to go fast or have the ability to go fast. I myself use to think about if i ever had a ton of doe. I would buy the fastest car in the world. But what sense does that make unless i'm going to have a truck, drive it to the track then i open it up on a nice RACE TRACK. made for speeding above the local speed limit.

Autopilot/Self driving cars in the future. will not go faster than the speed limit. EVER unless their's a malfunction. the slower you drive the less chance you have of killing someone(including yourself.)
The better the gas mileage and the better traffic as a whole actually moves. With grannies driving 40 in a 60. and you drive 90 in a 60. thats a recipe for bad news. which result in lookie loos and traffic jams.
 

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So this was gonna come out soon and take the jobs from truckers?

If it cant handle a car fully yet it damn well cant handle a truck fully.:mjlol:
 

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So this was gonna come out soon and take the jobs from truckers?

If it cant handle a car fully yet it damn well cant handle a truck fully.:mjlol:
who said it can't handle a truck? its an assistant. but sorry you can't sleep with it. you have to pay attention to the road and whats going on. now eventually, google cars(truly self-driveable). will be a thing. and again. these things wont work best driving next to other cars with regular humans controlling them. WE(humans) actually mess up the idea of software driven vehicles. because we are more erratic. software drivers for all of our cars and trucks would be like making us drive along tracks and the track controls our speed. we can't switch lanes until its time to switch lanes. and it will only allow you to switch lanes when its the perfect window to do so. humans "eye ball it". computers will have it down to an inch when you should best merge over into the turning lanes, into other lanes to get ready to make that left or right, etc. But someone like yourself is actually representative of society more so than someone who thinks like me and knows where this should go and could go for the greater good as far as less accidents and less deaths, etc. There are things some people would like computers to do that they are just not as accurate as humans are when doing it. so for those things let the humans do it. But for driving. I can almost bet that a computer system can drive a car better than 99.9% of humans that are on the road today.
 

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who said it can't handle a truck? its an assistant. but sorry you can't sleep with it. you have to pay attention to the road and whats going on. now eventually, google cars(truly self-driveable). will be a thing. and again. these things wont work best driving next to other cars with regular humans controlling them. WE(humans) actually mess up the idea of software driven vehicles. because we are more erratic. software drivers for all of our cars and trucks would be like making us drive along tracks and the track controls our speed. we can't switch lanes until its time to switch lanes. and it will only allow you to switch lanes when its the perfect window to do so. humans "eye ball it". computers will have it down to an inch when you should best merge over into the turning lanes, into other lanes to get ready to make that left or right, etc. But someone like yourself is actually representative of society more so than someone who thinks like me and knows where this should go and could go for the greater good as far as less accidents and less deaths, etc. There are things some people would like computers to do that they are just not as accurate as humans are when doing it. so for those things let the humans do it. But for driving. I can almost bet that a computer system can drive a car better than 99.9% of humans that are on the road today.
At most there will be humans there in these self driving trucks monitoring them. If that happens truckers will not lose their jobs so my point still stands.
 

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At most there will be humans there in these self driving trucks monitoring them. If that happens truckers will not lose their jobs so my point still stands.
that would good if you ask me. truckers still there"jusssst in case." which would make it even safer than just software and no humans at all. and while they sit, they can get paid. so like you said. truckers dont have to lose their jobs. They would probably get paid less since they dont have to actually drive just ride. but still. thats better than nothing i guess. i dont have a problem with it.
 
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