Security guard shoots unarmed teens... :russ:

[I Really Mean It]

Listen to this dumb ass nikka. So you'll be cool if the owner of the store was Black?

Yeah you're right. I'm the black owner of the store. Go ahead my nikkas, come on in and rob me. I see you struggling. Go ahead and just take everything. I got .380 underneath the counter, I could blow your fukking heads off if I wanted to but you know what? I don't want to be called a c00n so I'm gonna go ahead and let yall rob you. shyt you might come back since after this, I'm basically your bytch. So you can go ahead and come back and rob me again.

fukk outta here nikka. Yall nikkas call everbody c00ns, I bet your boss is white and his boss as well. Hell even if you aint working and trapping in the streets. You're still a c00n. Call another a c00n because he working a job. What if he's a ex-con? And nobody else hiring him? Wtf do you do for black people? Besides get on the The Coli with your

mindstate

What does anything you said have to do with this particular instance? I'm not going to sit here and applaud some overzealous BLACK security guard busting shots at two BLACK robbers who're holding up a store manned by some Indian. It is what it is.

 

[I Really Mean It]

Who could he have killed with a stray? How do you know or what makes you conclude that he didn't hesitate or was not thinking clearly? Explain to me what you saw or heard that makes you believe that he was at any point not in control of the situation.

The robbers had all but surrendered once they saw him enter, yet he still shot them. If anything, the security guard committed a few crimes.

 

[Wildin]

What if he's a ex-con? And nobody else hiring him?

Not sure what he wants this security guard to do if that's the only job he can get.

Ain't no ex-con getting licensed to be an armed security guard in any state.

Also if he didn't like his job / wasn't satisfied with it he wouldn't have been able to perform his duties appropriately.

Meaning he either would have let them escape, then the video would be titled "Lazy Black Security Guard Fail" and you'd have 100s of posts talking about why people don't want to and shouldn't hire black people and how he probably knew them etc.

Or he would have came in and murdered both of the suspects on some "I'm invincible/who gives a shyt" steeze.

 

[Wildin]

had all but surrendered

I'm going to need you to clarify what that means like you are these guys lawyer because I don't know what that means.

If you can please address the previous points that you stated

--Who could he have killed with a stray?
--How did you come to the conclusion that he did not hesitate or was not thinking clearly?
--what did you see or hear that makes you believe that he was at any point not in control of the situation?

 

[LebronsHairline]

if i was the employee id want that dumb nikka fired he came in buckin wit no regard for anyone (outside the thieves) in that store smh

 

[I Really Mean It]

I'm going to need you to clarify what that means like your are these guys lawyer because I don't know what that means.

If you can please address the previous points that you stated

--Who could he have killed with a stray?

A bystander walking outside. One of those bullets could have easily went through a wall or window and hit an innocent man, woman or child.

--How did you come to the conclusion that he did not hesitate or was not thinking clearly?

His whole demeanor when rushing into the store tells me that he's making a rash decision and not thinking clearly. Again, if you watch the video, they all but surrender before he continues to shoot them.

--what did you see or hear that makes you believe that he was at any point not in control of the situation?

Maybe you're right, and he was in control of the situation, but that may indict him even more when you look at how he almost certainly shot them after they were down.

 

[Kaypain]

What does anything you said have to do with this particular instance? I'm not going to sit here and applaud some overzealous BLACK security guard busting shots at two BLACK robbers who're holding up a store manned by some Indian. It is what it is.

So if the owner was black you wouldn't have given a fukk. Who's really the c00n

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Also if he didn't like his job / wasn't satisfied with it he wouldn't have been able to perform his duties appropriately.

Meaning he either would have let them escape, then the video would be titled "Lazy Black Security Guard Fail" and you'd have 100s of posts talking about why people don't want to and shouldn't hire black people and how he probably knew them etc.

Or he would have came in and murdered both of the suspects on some "I'm invincible/who gives a shyt" steeze.

Not liking your job <> not being able to do it. He might have shot them BECAUSE he hates his job.

There's a lot you can hate on the security guard for but doing the job he's paid to do isn't one of them.

 

[StackUp]

c00n came in like for the Indian clerk.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

 

[Wildin]

A bystander walking outside. One of those bullets could have easily went through a wall or window and hit an innocent man, woman or child.



His whole demeanor when rushing into the store tells me that he's making a rash decision and not thinking clearly. Again, if you watch the video, they all but surrender before he continues to shoot them.



Maybe you're right, and he was in control of the situation, but that may indict him even more when you look at how he almost certainly shot them after they were down.

1. This discussion doesn't need to expand into gun control, statutes and limitations etc. However beyond the scope of control a person is not responsible for where a bullet goes beyond an intended target. He's not shooting into a crowd of people nor is the convenience store attached to a daycare center or some sort of protected dwelling where it would be hard for them to obtained a licensed "armed" security guard. He was within 20 yards of his intended target which is nearly the maximum distance that anyone should attempt to shoot with a handgun. It's not like he tried to snipe them from a distance. Anyone that receives any sort of gun training learns the basic rules, know your intended target, what in front of, behind, to the sides and shoot only when it's safe to do so. This man had items (albeit safe items, not gas pumps or anything) and a wall / counter behind the suspects. He was well within range for a good shot. Keep in mind this is a commercial business, not a residential home. A single bullet can go through a front wall and out of a back wall of a residential household due to construction. We need to not tease ourselves and pretend this 24/hour convenience store is poorly put together. It's not fort Knox or an indoor gun range but it's not your house.

2. His demeanor is that of a worker who works in escalated and tense situations. When have you seen an officer casually walk into a situation with an armed party? Even when they aren't the first on the scene they don't casually walk on to the scene they run toward coverage, their partner, positions etc. Firemen don't casually walk on to the scene of a smoking building. If he was completely aloof he may walk into a situation with 1-2 potentially armed suspects like "hi, how may I help you this evening?" From what I saw its apparent that he understood enough about the situation to enter the store with his gun drawn. Unless we see video evidence of him entering the store all the time and recklessly pointing his guns at shopping patrons we can infer that his behavior was appropriate given what was actually taking place at the time.

3. Try to find any jury / officer in America who will say "You should have believed them and ceased action once they stated that the gun was fake."
I could see this being argued in court. However putting myself in the suspect shoes nobody is going to believe me if I say I have a fake gun. It's a hail mary shot. 1 in a million chance that a court would get you off on that excuse.1 in a million chance that someone is going to listen and then move on to another de-escalation tactic once I throw that excuse out there.

 

[StretfordRed]

His job is to rush in the store and protect Apu from two hungry kids? He's a c00n because he's working security to monitor and protect property most likely owned by someone who hates black people. And I'm not saying the thieves made the right choice. But that's besides the point. I don't give a fukk about Apu getting his shyt took, and I'm definitely not siding with a black security guard who swooped in like to save his ass.

Trying WAY too hard

 

[Lord_nikon]

then shot dude from behind the counter like o-Dog

 

[Lord_nikon]

Gotta give security some credit, better aim and control than most police

and heart also

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

thread title vs the video.

lol I just noticed the thread title says "Unarmed"

Only one of them had a toy gun