Seems Kevin Love Has Already Mentally Left The Timberwolves
- Thread starter ThaBronxBully
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I think you tagged the wrong man. But no i dont and yes i was wrong
Nah you the dude I was suppose to tag. I already quoted the other one - he's still yet to take his L.
Nah you the dude I was suppose to to already quoted the other one - he's still yet to take his L.
We been taking L's for 10 straight years. Im used to it, he still has pride due to his other favorite teams
I really dont see any way Love doesnt end up wearing purp and yellow in a couple years 
Wargames
One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
The top two teams that will go for him are the knicks and the lakers. Simple as that both teams will have max money and whoever looks like the best bet to do well in the playoffs will be the place he goes
You still think some of those are patently ridiculous? Like say Mike Conley? The very Conley who's averaging 17.1 PPG on 43% shooting?
Take Felton's bum ass off there and replace him with Dragic, Bledsoe, Thomas, Wall, Carter-Williams, Jennings, Jackson and Lin ---- and Rondo is barely a top 20 PG in the scoring/shooting department.
PiffMOE7000
Pro
Hopefully this year or next, Kobe needs to put his fukking foot down and Jordan them muhfukkas at the front office.I really dont see any way Love doesnt end up wearing purp and yellow in a couple years
Kobe deserves more than this, they are tarnishing his legacy.
Greenstrings
All Star
Yeah this is shaping up to be by far his worst shooting season. You'd assume maybe defenders are sticking more closely to him but they're not. They're giving him room yet the shots just aren't falling and you see that reflected in his abysmal free throw numbers. He's pretty much squandered all the confidence he'd built up in his shot these past few years and while injuries haven't helped he should have been more aggressive and forced the issue. Parker started this game horribly but didn't stop shooting until he'd salvaged his night somewhat. And whatever you think of Rondo you can't tell me he hasn't got the tools to get it done. He has a slow release but smart use of screens and an occasional cross are things we've seen him do in the past to get around this, he has a good floater and an array of tricks and feints to create space for himself in the lanes. Spacing issues caused by personnel changes aside, he looks to have lost half a step and is struggling to get it back. I wouldn't write him off after a month but it's looking bleak if he can't at the very least hit his career average.
I'm going to have to stop you right there. He doesn't have the tools to get it done - this is what I've been trying to tell you all along. That's why he's NEVER been close to serviceable in crunch time and why his career-high is only 13.7 ppg. And most of all, dudes are still giving him a shooting-cushion after nearly a decade in the league.
That's ALL he has/had, and yet his only string when compared to all the other PGs that are great at scoring in the paint - he pales in comparison. And you had the nerve to turn up your nose at my suggestion that Conley (among others) had a larger scoring repertoire and was a bigger scoring threat.
This is what I told you would happen as soon as he became the 'leader' of a team.
Greenstrings
All Star
Don't really get what's to be so smug about. I don't really care to see any player struggle, even the ones I can't stand and Rondo's shooting right now is clearly an aberration and not the norm.
Who said anything about crunchtime? A lot of players aren't regardless of whether or not they can put up big numbers. A lot of players maxed out at 13 pts a game yet were renowned for being clutch so there's clearly room for manoeuvre here. Right now he isn't in the conversation either way but I have to think this is rock bottom for him in that regard.
The shooting cushion has little to do with how well he's actually shooting now as opposed to when the tag stuck. He'd have to shoot above and beyond what's considered good to even begin to dispel it because notions like that become gospel. Even after a stretch of decent shooting the tag remained.
At the time of saying Conley was a month and a half into his first season putting up more than 15 pts in his 7th year in the league (pretty sure you asserted that this kind of thing doesn't happen but we'll leave that dead.) We've seen players go on stretches that long then tail off so yeah at the time of saying it was premature and I wasn't wrong to call it out. That being said I'm glad he made something of a jump and if the Griz are thereabouts come March that'll be something to get excited about. To clarify you brought it up but as far as I understand it, repertoire refers to the variety of ways in which a player can score or create a shot not the prolificness of their shooting. I've seen Rondo score in more diverse and unorthodox ways than most.
This is what I told you would happen as soon as he became the 'leader' of a team.[/QUOTE]
You said he'd tear his ACL lose half a step and play alongside some of the worst rim protecting bigs in the L causing them to squander whatever leads they do rack up?
Receipts please. You said the regression of Pierce and KG would expose his flaws or something along those lines, you did not explicitly refer to their absence because that wasn't on the table at the time. His shooting struggles appear to have far more to do with confidence than anything else, but we'll see where he goes from here. This is probably the worst scoring stretch of his career so it isn't unreasonable to assume that he'll snap out of it.Ah well see, this is the norm (as basis from last season), this is him when he's the leader of a team. And while it may be not as horrific as it is now -when it evens out it isn't going much better - in terms of where he sits in relation to the rest of the league.
Well I think it's pretty clear that he's not one of those exceptions, and he never will be. He's pretty much been the worst starting PG in the last 5 minutes this season and he was last season too.
That's because it was only decent by his standards, and a stretch of games isn't remotely close to throwing a hex on denouncing a tag like that. There's no cause for you to suggest that it might waiver when teams know with him - what goes up, must come down.
It was actually his 6th season and he was only 25 at the time, I asserted and I quote that a "27-year-old isn't gonna spontaneously start playing Monstar ball". And really that's besides the fact, because it was evident at that time that Conley was a better shooter and could score in more various ways than Rondo could. You were wrong in that you called it 'patently ridiculous' that I'd think Conley had a larger scoring-repertoire when he was the better 3pt-shooter, the better jump shooter, and being ambidextrous he had better touch and more of a motley of finishing moves in the paint (in the 2012/2013 season when this was said). Which is funny because, it wasn't like you were willing to call their shooting/scoring skillsets comparable you went out of your way to say that it was ridiculous how I thought Conley was better in that area.
Well, you're either lying to save face or you haven't seen enough PGs, to have a tangible scale where you can use the word 'most'.
ii) he's pretty much the worst free-throw shooting PG in the league
ii) he's among the worst 3-pt shooting PGs in the league
iii) he's pretty much the worst offensive (scoring/shooting) starting PG in the last 5 minutes
iv) he's average at finishing in the paint, and doesn't play above the rim
v) he's among the worst at drawing contact
vi) he's average at creating a shot for himself, especially outside of the paint
vii) he's among the worst at beating his defender one-on-one
You said he'd tear his ACL lose half a step and play alongside some of the worst rim protecting bigs in the L causing them to squander whatever leads they do rack up?
Nah I said he'd be exposed when the spotlight shone solely on him and he did. You can't put his poor performances last season and this season solely down to his ACL tear - the writing was on the wall beforehand, you just failed to acknowledge it.
"Because obviously last season where he lead his team to a 6-24 record, where he handled the ball 22.6% of the time he was on the floor (more than every single other player in the league), with a 98.2 offensive rating (which would have ranked him #362 in the league) while only scoring 11.7 PPG on 40.3% shooting (only 34% on selective minimal jumpshots) and only averaging 0.5 points on 19.2% shooting during the 'clutch' period (which would have ranked him #269 in the league) - wasn't enough for Rondo stans and believers alike to end their indoctrinated state of taking part in this Jonestown-like thought reform. Using their own hermeneutics of how great of a leader he is - all the while casting aside the fact he regularly deferred to the likes of Kris Humphries and Chris Johnson late in games - failing to acknowledge that the Celtics organization's sleight of hand only made him seem like 'one of the best PGs/players' in the league, when those three HOFs were the ones pulling the strings all along."
I did not need to explicitly refer to their absence (surely you're not this dense?) - I referred to him being the #1 guy, and how it would expose his flaws. Obviously by age/team constraints, Rondo wasn't ALWAYS going to play with KG/Pierce for the rest of his career. The point of mentioning their regression, was that he'd have to play more of a role on the team, which he was inevitably going to do anyway, whether or not they stayed on the team is void.
Yeah well, even I don't think his last 5 games (5.2 ppg on 26% shooting) are an accurate reflection of his ability, however the indicators are there that he never will be up to the standard that most other PGs are in the league.