Senate Passes Biden's $1.9 Trillion Stimulus Bill, Sending Back to House for Final Approval

[bill]

Like I said, you're my enemy.
-Mention the ACA but reference ARA that's building on ACA
-Mention 8.5% cap for enrollees, but don't mention the individual/family income enrollment requirements
-Mention COBRA, but don't reference how folks may be required to pay the entire premium for coverage up to 102% of the cost to the plan
-Mention an end of September health coverage deadline, as if pandemic and economic hardships will stop by then
-Mention how many folks' premiums will be reduce but ignore how many folks won't qualify for coverage

Let me guess, "it's better than nothing"




Biden ran as anti Med4All, so generic phrases like "boost incentives to expand Medicare" is for shills like you to feel good and repeat

The reason why he's anti Med4all, along with those red states is because of their insurance/pharmaceutical donors and lobbyists' desire to sustain control over the markets, thus both sides argument is accurate

But feel good dumbazz like you, who treats politics like sports and old-school western movies with "bad" and "good" characters, don't care and aren't hurting to want the healthcare problem solved

A single legislation would begin to solve healthcare mess, without the need to embellish stats using triggering verbs/nouns

Do all these things help people? Yes or no?
Without question they do. I have no problem with Medicare for all or other progressive initiatives. My problem is people like you who don't acknowledge concrete steps that help people. You are a loser tho who will always complain about everything.

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Edit:. I'm surprised you didn't pay more

Dependents breh

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Where in NYC though?

NYC mofo you want to know what boro and street I live on too? How about I just give you my entire address

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

Dependents breh

I know. I don't want to blurt out my salary but I ended up paying $70K to the feds from taxes. I don't want to blurt out my salary but I do not make twice as much you.

Compared to me you made out like a bandit.

 

[mobbinfms]

NYC mofo you want to know what boro and street I live on too? How about I just give you my entire address

200k go a lot further in the BX then in Manhattan right?
Might be time to change that screen name too

 

[mobbinfms]

Not necessarily because a lot of jobs and wages aren't coming back because of COVID-19. Even if they were to give an amount towards unpaid rent this stimulus, they still are going to have to come with another bailout for landlords in September when the rent moratorium ends. You're throwing money to patch the problem, but the root of the cause (outrageous rent prices) is still there.

COVID-19 is not the cause of the problem as people were struggling to pay their student loans and rent before COVID-19. COVID-19. The pandemic just made it worse and threw people even further behind than what they were previously.

This stimulus I would consider as a "patch", while the next one needs to address the root of the cause and the ramifications and fallout for the future. I'm fine with this one being as it is. That's why I mentioned a few posts ago that now they can focus on the future.

I completely agree with you that these are systemic problems (stagnant wage growth coupled with soaring cost of living) that need to be fixed.

 

[mobbinfms]

Oh I was just referring to people in general. $200K isn't a lot depending on how many family members you got plus the amount of student loan debt you have. Just because you make a lot of money doesn't mean that you don't have the student loan debt or the means to pay it off as quick.

The ironic part about it is that some people on here were saying that 80K is considered well off when they are saddled with $30K+ plus themselves and a family to provide for. 80K ain't going that far with those type of bills.

Yep. It’s a million different factors. One of the most important is where in NYC he lives. Like I said in another post, 200k will go a lot farther in the BX then in Manhattan.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Yep. It’s a million different factors. One of the most important is where in NYC he lives. Like I said in another post, 200k will go a lot farther in the BX then in Manhattan.

Is NY that expensive? 200K in Mississippi (depending on a lot of factors) can have you living pretty well off lol.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

I completely agree with you that these are systemic problems (stagnant wage growth coupled with soaring cost of living) that need to be fixed.

COVID-19 didn’t cause a lot of these problems, but only made them worse. That’s why I feel like they gotta do something about it with the next (likely last) stimulus bill. I don’t see another stimulus check coming, but more so addressing long fallout from the pandemic and the future.

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

Oh I was just referring to people in general. $200K isn't a lot depending on how many family members you got plus the amount of student loan debt you have. Just because you make a lot of money doesn't mean that you don't have the student loan debt or the means to pay it off as quick.

The ironic part about it is that some people on here were saying that 80K is considered well off when they are saddled with $30K+ plus themselves and a family to provide for. 80K ain't going that far with those type of bills.

Crying for a $200K payroll salary is a bit much. I've seen that salary at one point in my career and it's $10K a month after taxes and a maxed out 401K for a single person in the state of Maryland. And as single male I was paying way more to the feds than $35K at that point.


He's living gooder than good lol

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Crying for a $200K payroll salary is a bit much. I've seen that salary at one point in my career and it's $10K a month after taxes and a maxed out 401K for a single person in the state of Maryland. And as single male I was paying way more to the feds than $35K at that point.


He's living gooder than good lol

Oh if you’re single making that much then you should be living good as you don’t have child care expenses or other things that come along with having kids. If you’re struggling with that amount, then you’re wasting money somewhere.

Now if you have a family, plus student loans (husband and wife) and taking care of other people, then I could see how 200K would not be enough depending on where you live. That’s why I don’t think they should have reduced the threshold even if I get why they did it. 80K is not considered rich depending on the expenses you have and people you’re having to help out. Have people making 80K and I guarantee you the majority of them would still say that it’s not enough.

It’s exactly like a celebrity or an athlete having to foot the bill for multiple family members and covering EVERY expense. It would amaze people who quick that bill can add up if you aren’t paying attention to it.

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

200k go a lot further in the BX then in Manhattan right?
Might be time to change that screen name too

I’m not in the Bronx

 

[mobbinfms]

Is NY that expensive? 200K in Mississippi (depending on a lot of factors) can have you living pretty well off lol.

NYC as a whole is expensive, but Manhattan is crazy stupid expensive.

 

[mobbinfms]

COVID-19 didn’t cause a lot of these problems, but only made them worse. That’s why I feel like they gotta do something about it with the next (likely last) stimulus bill. I don’t see another stimulus check coming, but more so addressing long fallout from the pandemic and the future.

I’m almost certain this is it. Manchin isn’t signing off on anything else.
Unless we can hold the house, pick up a few seats in the Senate and nuke the filibuster, nothing else this big is getting through in the next four years.

 

[mobbinfms]

Crying for a $200K payroll salary is a bit much. I've seen that salary at one point in my career and it's $10K a month after taxes and a maxed out 401K for a single person in the state of Maryland. And as single male I was paying way more to the feds than $35K at that point.


He's living gooder than good lol

I’ve heard NYC state and local taxes are crazy high.