How do they differ from the US? They have a more progressive tax structure. I just said that. Most reputable economists advocate for tax reform. But hey, why listen to smart people when they speak about their field?
Sep 28 - Americans Have No Idea How Bad Inequality Really Is
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How do they differ from the US? They have a more progressive tax structure. I just said that. Most reputable economists advocate for tax reform. But hey, why listen to smart people when they speak about their field?
heisenburrr
Have Fun Staying Poor
What do they have in common that the USA has not?
No debts.
It is much too late for "more progressive tax structures" to solve this inequality problem.
Brown_Pride
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having it "good" and having it "equal" or "just" or fuk even "mildly within the realm of reason" are not the same thing.
Is it better than nothing? Because that would be the only option for most Americans.Agree, but that isn't saying much.
Its outdated, racist, inefficient, and now provides next to no human capital.
There's a lot mroe they have in common that's a lot more relevant to the barriers of wealth for the American middle class... any ideas as to what those might be?
Where would govt options be better?
Your whole philosophy is one size fits all- "market solutions are always superior", even when they're not.
Brown_Pride
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what is increasing the quality of life? Providing more money to CEOs? I guess sure they're able to afford a 3rd or 4th vacation house so YES technically someone's life is getting better...approximately 1% of the population is having a field day out there, everyone else is stuck in the 80's...but with better cell phones.
What do they have in common that the USA has not?
No debts.
It is much too late for "more progressive tax structures" to solve this inequality problem.
Not according to Stiglitz or Krugman or Rajan or tons of other economists.
You're right. We have a much different mindset than they do. That progressive tax structure comes with a progressive mindset and boy could we use some of both. It'd be nice to live in a country that actually followed through on wanting better for it's citizens. If we ever do, we know where to look.
The market isn't a solution, but a system by which many solution will arise. The best one being the one adopted.
But you know that.If there is a strong enough demand for something, the market will supply it.
A look back to when we had even less shows that schools will pop up to serve those without. This state provision is the only way narrative, doesn't hold up to any amount of scrutiny.
The success of blacks without state provision is well documented, and had it not been for the racist fueled terrorism we were subject to, who knows how far we would have gone.
The old appeal to authority eh?
Fair enough, but there are highly regarded economist on both sides so
The old appeal to authority eh?
Fair enough, but there are highly regarded economist on both sides so
Ok if you have cancer are you gonna go visit a doctor or a bum on the corner?
Appeal to authority? Get real man.
I hate to break the news to you but we all can't be equal.
having it "good" and having it "equal" or "just" or fuk even "mildly within the realm of reason" are not the same thing.
even in communist countries the leaders are living it up
heisenburrr
Have Fun Staying Poor
Please refrain from using this fraud as a support for any argument.
That said, I am not saying it couldn't do some good for some. It could relieve some pressure for those at the very bottom. But ultimately the weight will be carried by the higher class and professionals and the super wealthy will come out unscathed.
heisenburrr
Have Fun Staying Poor
no one is suggesting we should
The market isn't a solution, but a system by which many solution will arise. The best one being the one adopted.
We have a market system now. People can go to public schools or private schools.
Who said anything about making the state provision the only way?
The existence of public schools doesn't eliminate private schools.
The existence of a public healthcare option wouldn't elminate private options.
Strawmen are the hallmark of a lack of comprehension and a glut of desperation.
Remove the states authority over standards for educational accomplishment and they'd truly be from up under the thumb of the state.
... but when you say "If govt doesnt fund it who will" it sounds(to me) like you believe govt. to be the only answer, sorry if I misunderstood.
You can't possibly believe this.