Serge Ibaka traded to Raptors for Terrence Ross & 1st round pick

[Wise]

Doesn't matter. Great players always fall out of the lottery. The concept of having a 1st round pick is still valuable and can turn into a player like a Jimmy Butler, Draymond Green, Rudy Gobert, Giannis, Avery Bradley, Bledsoe, etc all guys who fell late. Again, its a good trade for Toronto, but just pray Orlando doesn't pick up an Eastern conference 2021 All-Star with that pick

With logic like this, then nobody would ever trade picks then

Anthony Bennett was the first pick, look where he is.

Isaiah Thomas was the 60th pick, look where he is.

You cant predict these things.

 

[Box Factory]

No its not, your team owns a boatload of future picks, different mentality than the Raptors selling off picks

The traded pick is currently the 24th pick, the Raptors have both of their own picks in this draft, Ibaka is 27, the Raptors have his bird rights making this very unlikely to be a half season rental.

You think they shouldn't have upgraded with a guy in/entering his prime because of a pick in the mid to late 20s?


I feel like you had a reasonable take at first from the prospective of what you want your team to do, and then just went into overdrive on trolling after.

It's a very late first and T Ross. Those aren't championship pieces

 

[Dwight Howard]

Great trade for torono. Get an established vet for a run-of-the-mill player in Ross and 1 of their 2 1st round picks. Orlando wasnt gonna sign Ibaka so atleast they got SOMETHING but when you look at what they gave OKC, they clearly lose here.

 

[ZEupTWN]

You clearly don't watch OKC games there is no way he will magically become good
U can see potentially in players even when they aren't good he doesn't have it
I will be surprised if he in the league in 2 yrs

idk he's shown his potential nobody is labeling him a future all star tho
going from a high usage post player to a stretch 4 is a big adjustment


Ibaka is a good look he's pretty much everything you need in a stretch 4....with patterson behind him, that's a nice 1-2 punch.....
IMO they still need fire power on the perimeter behind lowry and deroz especially at the 3...

 

[The Fire]

idk he's shown his potential nobody is labeling him a future all star tho
going from a high usage post player to a stretch 4 is a big adjustment


Ibaka is a good look he's pretty much everything you need in a stretch 4....with patterson behind him, that's a nice 1-2 punch.....
IMO they still need fire power on the perimeter behind lowry and deroz especially at the 3...

Lowry is one of the three best shooters in the league this year

 

[kangkong]

With logic like this, then nobody would ever trade picks then

Anthony Bennett was the first pick, look where he is.

Isaiah Thomas was the 60th pick, look where he is.

You cant predict these things.

Yes... generally teams don't trade 1st rounders unless they're legit contenders or getting a star/borderline star in return, even if its not lottery And the fact that you can't predict the draft is my exact point. A pick in the 20's doesn't have that worse a chance of turning into a great player as a lottery pick

 

[Box Factory]

Yes... generally teams don't trade 1st rounders unless they're legit contenders or getting a star/borderline star in return, even if its not lottery And the fact that you can't predict the draft is my exact point. A pick in the 20's doesn't have that worse a chance of turning into a great player as a lottery pick

Yes it does . It actually has a significantly lower chance of even finding a bench player.

You generally have less than a 50℅ chance of even finding a lasting NBA player in that range

Take a look for yourself

NBA Draft Analysis -- Expected value of a pick

 

[CarltonJunior]

Yes it does . It actually has a significantly lower chance of even finding a bench player.

You generally have less than a 50℅ chance of even finding a lasting NBA player in that range

Take a look for yourself

NBA Draft Analysis -- Expected value of a pick

In this current era where foreign players are becoming more and more commonly drafted I'd say that NOWADAYS it won't be far fetched that those early 20 picks are on par with 7-14th picks on average.

 

[William F. Russell]

Actually no. You are def confused.

Raptors have been the second best team in the east for the past 3 years. The Wiz are on a hot streak and Boston will fall.

The Raps going on their first lil slump in literally 3 years doesn't dethrone them.

Raptors have been trash this season. Disappointing and very underwhelming. They were supposed to be battling the Cavs for the East but they're sitting in 4th right now by a decent margin.

Wizards are legit. And the Wizards beat the Raps back in November (when the Raps were still clinging onto the 2 seed). They've become better since then. The Raptors have regressed.

The Celtics are on the Cavs' heels. They don't show any signs of slowing down and have won 9 of their last 10 games. And they've got the East's MVP candidate in Isaiah.

 

[Trust Me]

Great trade for torono. Get an established vet for a run-of-the-mill player in Ross and 1 of their 2 1st round picks. Orlando wasnt gonna sign Ibaka so atleast they got SOMETHING but when you look at what they gave OKC, they clearly lose here.

They lost an Oladipo that was gonna command a max contract. They lost an Ibaka that was gonna ask for a max contract in order to stay. Neither of them dudes deserves a max. We could've done worse. Way worse.

 

[Box Factory]

In this current era where foreign players are becoming more and more commonly drafted I'd say that NOWADAYS it won't be far fetched that those early 20 picks are on par with 7-14th picks on average.

This is a fair point, but you're still highly unlikely to find anything beyond a possible rotation guy at those late picks.

I don't know if I'd reach up as far to say the 7th overall pick, but past like 12ish I'd say there's probably not a huge difference

I'd probably take an early 2nd over a real late 1st tbh when it comes to overseas guys. That set 1st round contract is a negative when it comes to bringing those guys over.

 

[William F. Russell]

They lost an Oladipo that was gonna command a max contract. They lost an Ibaka that was gonna ask for a max contract in order to stay. Neither of them dudes deserves a max. We could've done worse. Way worse.

Yeah. I mean, the Magic's stuck where it's at and if the team's going to rebuild, it needs to identify and invest in the right players in order to move forward (especially after that Dwight fiasco). Ibaka, as great as he is, isn't the right player for the Magic to be committed to. Oladipo, shows flashes here and there yet is clearly not that guy either.

Imagine the Magic with Ibaka and Oladipo both signed to max/big-money contracts

Talk about a treadmill team

 

[Floyd Pinkerton]

Uh oh the East is back

We've been saying that since 2001 and it has never been the case.

 

[Floyd Pinkerton]

So Orlando ultimately traded Oladipo, Sabonis & Ilyasova for Terrence Ross and a pick in the 20s

Any time you can turn a quarter into two nickels, you gotta make it happen

 

[Auger]

When does Serge start? Tomorrow?