Serious question for the Alphabet Movement/Red Pill/KS crew.

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The original poster made this in bad faith so I won't put much effort into this

I already knew this dating market was weird way back in my teenage years, but that's nothing compared to how it became when IG, Tinder, hit the scene. The Red Pill content was the originator of talking points that have become mainstream, that everybody is making podcasts about either repeating points or shifting all the way left to be contrary. You got PUA's and life coaches that had to shift their platform to Red Pill listeners because women made their demands (looks/swag/height/money/etc) clear after they said that stuff wasn't important to confidence for the past 30+ years :coffee:

I took the good points/life tips that Kevin Samuels/Red & Black Pill creators made and applied it to my life. I disagree with some of their points, but I am not like other guys that write off everything someone says because we disagree on one key point or smaller issues. If a guy in Red Pill Rage can't absorb the content properly, that isn't my problem.

As of now I am relatively successful with the women I want - not the ones that family members pitch to me for LTR/marriage because I'm in my 30's, doing well and single (as far as they know). I could have gotten to that point earlier in my life if I was focused sooner.
 

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Nah that's false. One half of the species has the knowledge to control/play the other half and uses it. The second half is seeking this same knowledge to simply protect themselves and are being discouraged or shamed for seeking or applying it.
 

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The red pill stuff really boils down to a few key points, but grifters exploit, distort, and mis apply those points for profit.

1. You can't negotiate attraction. If a woman isn't feeling you, you can't talk yourself into her bed. Jusy like a woman built like lizzo can't talk you into lifting up those fat folds and diving in.

2. Women look for value. If you're not more attractive than men she's messed with, don't make as much or money, aren't more interesting and can't put her on to new experiences and knowledge or help her with your practical skills, you're of no use to her. What you won't do, another man will.

3. You should have goals you want to achieve and work towards them with confidence and a belief in yourself. Lose weight, get educated, learn a new craft, find something you're passionate about and put your energy into it.

4. Don't be ashamed of your beliefs, values, and interests. Don't hide who you are for the sake of female attention and pretend to be what you aren't. If she can't rock with who you are honestly, then she's not for you.

5. Don't go by what women say. Watch what they do and what they have done in the past. Their stated desires can and do contradict their actions.

That's pretty much all you need to know. If you ain't getting Women it's because you're ugly, boring, broke, and/or have standards higher than what you can realistically achieve. Unless you rub elbows with celebrities and have major income, you're not getting with a Brittany Renner style heaux. It is what it is. Accept it.
 

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It's all a grift. People use these movements and make a full time income.

They usually spout some true game mixed with alot of bullshyt. And don't take their own advice.



Take Oshay Duke Jackson. Breh said that he's in medical school in Poland but all these years he hasn't gotten a doctor's degree yet. I haven't seen him with a woman yet.


Personally I don't follow any of these cats. I think that they're all goofy. Kevin Samuels was probably the best of them and if you check his thread on here, I was critical of him too.

The redpill charlatans are not here to help anyone.
They want you to 'like and subscribe' to their channels, hit the superchat button during live streams and then subscribe to their Patreon so they can show you more secrets about women behind a paywall.

And by the way don't forget to sign up for the exclusive courses that they offer to help you to be become a top G.

100 percent grifters. They are running a business.

Not all of us are watching YouTube channels or listening to podcasts entranced by some charismatic alpha male selling us a dream. Speak for yourself.

There’s nothing wrong with red pill in itself, but when people start taking everything these individuals say at face value without any self-reflection or critical thinking…you are simply contributing to the problem. This goes both ways, make and female, and is not beholden to political belief, religious dogma, or color.

Look at your unflinching loyalty to this shyt, and for what? Is OP really hurting your feelings that much that any impression of criticism has you charging into battle on behalf of the abstract concept of “the manosphere?” The sad fact is you are merely a cheerleader, a bystander under the illusion of concrete action.
These dudes get no p*ssy.

If they're this lame and corny, just imagine their interactions with women
 

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Take advice from these guys

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Take advice from these guys

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Just curious what would be wrong with taking advice from them? People advise people for a living and likely aren’t perfect so I’m just curious why do we have a higher standard for these people? I didn’t have issues with the old heads in the neighborhood or at work schooling me. The only difference is now it’s online and the information is more Assessable to those who seek it.
 

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I think KS(I dont know about others) did teach alot of men to value themselves. Too many of them were sacrificing their dignity without realizing the women they were doing it for would never return what they gave.

To be fair there was way too much "simping"(for lack of better term). Too many brehs had low self esteem and put up with alot of emotional and verbal abuse. It was embarrassing, and some of us are indirectly affected by thirsty embarrassing behavior. Sadly they became accustom to that behavior through a combination of their mothers, environment, or just too green and initiated by girls who took advantage of them and they thought it was normal. I think it's reduced the high thirst and desperation, which is still MUCH needed
 
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