Serious Question: How Poppin' would Jay-Z be if He Wasn't Married to Beyonce

Harry B

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What you’re have broken records?

And 4:44 did not come close to OTR and WTT... saying it’s his largest solo tour is spin as well
Those were co-headlined. This was not only headlined but completely solo with that Mensah dude opening some show.
It also did 10 million bucks more than WTT in the US, but WTT had a European leg as well.

I really don’t think Live Nation are misleading investors for a black mans ego.
 

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They really coming for Jay-Z and his coolness factor...he should chill on the intertwining of his career with his wife's tho....cause her fan base is the worst and they ain't up on hip hop enough to see that...so they roll with lowest common denominator statements like "Jay Z wouldn't be nothing without her".... The man was one of the GOATS of hip-hop before her
 
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She would’ve still seen success with or without Jay. Her solo ventures were highly anticipated.

Beyonce was the lead singer of a group who was very successful but she wasn’t exactly embraced to that degree. If you said Beyonce name in those days it was...

She’s pretty
She’s robotic/fake
She & Matthew did the other girls dirty

Beyonce did not have the urban crowd to the degree a Mary did. That changed when Crazy In Luv came out...Who was the most equipped to give Beyonce that edge she was looking for at the time? Jiggaman who was on fire
 

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Today he is. Beyonce is worth 400 jay 800 stfu u dont know what ur talking about

dumbass, u made it seem like he was worth 800M before Beyonce

Beyonce gave Hov the "TMZ" "Taylor Swift" audience and was accepted.

he was washed and headed for Nelly/T.I.. status without her.....
 

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They really coming for Jay-Z and his coolness factor...he should chill on the intertwining of his career with his wife's tho....cause her fan base is the worst and they ain't up on hip hop enough to see that...so they roll with lowest common denominator statements like "Jay Z wouldn't be nothing without her".... The man was one of the GOATS of hip-hop before her
don't do that, don't act like her core fans, black women 25-45, aint familiar with, and FANS of jay z. like women don't listen to rap...maybe in 1990....
 

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Without Kanye's friendship and marrying Beyonce, Jay wouldn't be relevant right now :manny:
Without Jay, Kanye wouldn’t exist at all.
WTT and any Kanye album in the 2010s sold less than Bp3 and Magna Carta.

Kanye wasn’t involved in Jays comeback album that was his biggest 1st week and Kanye has only produced 2 singles (1 was really No ID) for Jay-z. What are you even talking about. Acting as if Jay ever had problems finding producers or even selling albums with weaker production.

Dudes with their weird as scenarios are funny, no motivation behind it at all. “If Young Guru became a lawyer, Jay would be doing fake festivals with Ja Rule”, “If It wasn’t for Jay overshadowing Bleek, Bleek would be Drake today”, “If Beyoncé married Fat Joe, Fat Joe would be worth billion” “If it wasn’t for trackmasters and Steve Stouts, Nas would be a 1 album wonder”

:snoop:



Of course airheads, when you make something with someone it wouldn’t exist if you didn’t make it with that person. It’s not rocket science, but there’s nothing saying that you wouldn’t do something else perhaps something better.
 
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These were all his biggest songs in the early 00s and not one produced by Kanye except Izzo. As far as the late 00s, The Black Album had two Kanye produced songs and neither were the biggest or best songs on that album. Kanye didnt touch another Jay song until BP3. And none of the songs he did were the biggest or best on that album (maybe Run This Town). We already into 2014 now with Magna Carta and Kaybe didnt touch that at all either. Obviously wasnt on 4:44. But Obviously he WAS on Watch the Throne.

So basically youre saying that Jay Z is irrelevant without Watch the Throne?:gucci:
Okay Pal. MBDTF. Monster? So Appalled? Cruel Summer Clique? Run this Town? I specifically mentioned the late 00s to early 10s. Yet you're acting as if I took that away from Jay by mentioning all these early 00s hits.

However, in regards to WTT. How many times have the crowds begged Jay to do an encore for a song? Do I need to mention the NIP craze that literally swept the globe?
 

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Okay Pal. MBDTF. Monster? So Appalled? Cruel Summer Clique? Run this Town? I specifically mentioned the late 00s to early 10s. Yet you're acting as if I took that away from Jay by mentioning all these early 00s hits.

However, in regards to WTT. How many times have the crowds begged Jay to do an encore for a song? Do I need to mention the NIP craze that literally swept the globe?
So Appalled is nice cause Jay and Push killed it and monster is the only weak song on that album. Same thing with Clique and it’s not produced by Kanye. Kanye is not the only dope producer in the world, Jay can work with whoever he wants. He chose to work with Kanye, not the other way around. These are facts before Jay, Kanye was a bum. Before Kanye Jay was that nikka.

That’s all we know, now what would Jay do if he told Kanye to stay working with Shwanna and them? What would jay be doing today? What would Kanye be doing? Who the fukk knows, what if Soulja Slim was alive would he have taken Beyoncé and Jays lane? What if Just Blaze became a programmer, would Jays tours never take off cause Blaze got the best energetic Jay songs? Are you guys god?

The trolling in the spot has reached another level lately without any comedy :yawn:
 
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Without Jay, Kanye wouldn’t exist at all.
WTT and any Kanye album in the 2010s sold less than Bp3 and Magna Carta.

Kanye wasn’t involved in Jays comeback album that was his biggest 1st week and Kanye has only produced 2 singles (1 was really No ID) for Jay-z. What are you even talking about. Acting as if Jay ever had problems finding producers or even selling albums with weaker production.

Dudes with their weird as scenarios are funny, no motivation behind it at all. “If Young Guru became a lawyer, Jay would be doing fake festivals with Ja Rule”, “If It wasn’t for Jay overshadowing Bleek, Bleek would be Drake today”, “If Beyoncé married Fat Joe, Fat Joe would be worth billion” “If it wasn’t for trackmasters and Steve Stouts, Nas would be a 1 album wonder”

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Of course airheads, when you make something with someone it wouldn’t exist if you didn’t make it with that person. It’s not rocket science, but there’s nothing saying that you wouldn’t do something else perhaps something better.


Can't definitively say that. Without DAME DASH Kanye wouldn't exist. Remember it was Dame who believed in Ye. Unless you on that revisionist history

Even without Rocafella, Kanye's talent would have been realized by someone else. Plus he already had the Common and NO ID Chicago connection anyway

Jay-Z's career as far as relevancy post 2010 was all because of Kanye and Beyonce
 
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