Serious Question: What exactly does Lebron do BETTER right now than Penny Hardaway did offensively?

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that could be the case.
but tell me . was 62 points in 3 qtrs... while outscoring a top 5 scoring team, better then they seemed? or was that utterly ridiculous no matter which era it was in?

is it nostalgia to watch film of 1990's nba defense and to watch it now and realize back then you could actually get up in guys all game long without fouling out?

is it nostalgia when todays era best stars are known as Offensive floppers? why would that be the case unlessssss they know the rules have changed and there are bogus calls to be had.

 

[backbreaker65]

nikka I'm 40. Don't use the age card to push lies. That's what you are doing

How am I pushing lies by stating the truth? Year 1 in the NBA, who was the more polish player? oh what about year 2? and year 3?

 

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Penny is one of the most overrated players of all time. The arguments I've seen as to why people THINK he is better than LeBron in this thread are absolutely absurd.

LOL @ this shytty ass thread

you see this nonsense. now the man is overrated. LOL.

how in the hell is the man overrated when he could do it all but his career more or less ended its upward trajectory due to injury.


i mean what if LBJ broke both of his legs at age 24..."lebron's legacy is so overrated" is that the nonsense you would say about the man?

what yall do to prop up the guys you like. you dont have to put down penny to prop up lbj. we're not putting down lbj. we're propping up penny . but we are taking some of the hot air of the balloon that is LBJ ultra hype.

 

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How am I pushing lies by stating the truth? Year 1 in the NBA, who was the more polish player? oh what about year 2? and year 3?

again stop with these statements.

who was the more polish player between kobe and allen iverson by year 1, 2? shoot you could say ai had it. but why did it look that way? AI had more touches since AI went to a team where he was by far the best player on that team.

if AI played with shaq from day one. his numbers would've never been where they were early on. now maybe he gets them up eventually or maybe not. we will never know.

penny played with shaq his first few years. so looking just at his stats and not at the actual games is going to do you a disservice.

 

[Liquid]

you see this nonsense. now the man is overrated. LOL.

how in the hell is the man overrated when he could do it all but his career more or less ended its upward trajectory due to injury.


i mean what if LBJ broke both of his legs at age 24..."lebron's legacy is so overrated" is that the nonsense you would say about the man?

what yall do to prop up the guys you like. you dont have to put down penny to prop up lbj. we're not putting down lbj. we're propping up penny . but we are taking some of the hot air of the balloon that is LBJ ultra hype.

He is VERY overrated if he is being compared to motherfukking LeBron James

They aren't even in the same stratosphere and I liked watching Penny when I grew up.

 

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[Sunalmighty]

Seriously though, after looking at the stats. Lebron's y'know 27 and 7 . But Kobe's averaged 28 when with Shaq, he's hit 30, 34, 35 a few times. It's insane.

Magic's around 20 points, but 15 assists . Larry Bird 24 points, 7 assists

Bill Russell 20 points, 24 rebounds Wilt started 40 points, 20 rebounds, finally settled to 15 ppg territory


Then you hit Michael Jordan's stats.

He had Hardaway's 5 assists pretty much. But he averaged over 30 points a game for 7 years in a row
Four other years, he was within a point and a half of thirty, one time he averaged fukking 37 points a game.

You don't even have to watch him play, you just read his PPG stat line and are like "Give him the GOAT."

I would've been honored to watch that guy play, because honestly I don't even understand. Steph Curry hits 3 pointers from behind 8 dudes, and he only averages 21. What the hell was Michael Jordan doing

Mike played with rage..i would love to have that entire season when he scored 37 per game. That nicca played like he hated his opponent. Like he wanted his foot on your throat at all times

 

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He is VERY overrated if he is being compared to motherfukking LeBron James

They aren't even in the same stratosphere and I liked watching Penny when I grew up.

an explain to me why is young pre prime penny dropping 40's in the playoffs not on par with the King?

aside from longevity.

 

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Mike played with rage..i would love to have that entire season when he scored 37 per game. That nicca played like he hated his opponent. Like he wanted his foot on your throat at all times

now this is the truth about mike. mike played like his life depended on it. i have never seen anyone play like that before watching him. and i have never seen that again.

Now with kobe... when he dropped 62 points on dallas. let me use a white man term. i was beside myself... like what da helllllllllllllll just happened. did this man just score more points than an entire team of grown men in the National Basketball Association.

Do people realize what the hell that means ? da homie Phil Jackson had to call off the dog. "ok ok, enough is enough... sub out kobe, sub out. ..But coach... naww... sub out before one of these dudes flip you on your head for embarrassing them.."

yall wont realize how insane kobe was until 10 years later when some kid looks at that stat line and goes wait a hot da.n minute... aint no way thats possible.

Thats some 8 year olds Y league type stuff when you have thaat one kid thats just better than everyone else so he goes for 40 and they just cut the clock and turn the score off.

how does 12 to 15 grown men allow ONE man to score more points then them. and we're not talking about some bad dallas team. i think they were top 5 if not top 3 in scoring that year. and unlike a LBJ or even a jordan during his era. and i know this aint their fault but its the truth. unlike those two. Kobe wasnt bigger/stronger/ more athletic than everyone he played against. So kobe was beasting people with SKILL more so then just pure brute force and might.

when i look at jordan & bron i think of Goliath. Just knocking down trees, stumping thru the forest. what you gone do about it? NOTHIN. you're to small, i'm to fast, i'm to long. too many too's.
But this nucca kobe bean bryant is a mere mortal. on some bruce lee type ish. 10 ninja roll up, and end up getting whooped. and the last man standing is some super thin frail looking dude but you realize how chiseled he is. thats kobe.

 

[ghostwriterx]

that could be the case.
is it nostalgia to watch film of 1990's nba defense and to watch it now and realize back then you could actually get up in guys all game long without fouling out?

Athleticism of today >>>>>>>>>>> Athleticism of the 90s

Barkley was a 6' 6" PF and he dominated. What do you think Bron and Anthony Davis would have done?
Reggie Miller was 185 soaking wet and couldn't dribble and he was making all-nba teams. Durant is 7 feet, better shooter, better finisher and can handle the rock. You think he would have struggled with hand checking? or Harden for that matter?

Basketball is the only sport where fans consistently hold these delusions that the players of today would get worked by previous eras despite being bigger, faster and stronger. You don't hear that nonsense in football.

 

[Liquid]

an explain to me why is young pre prime penny dropping 40's in the playoffs not on par with the King?

aside from longevity.

Because a pre prime LeBron was already the best player in the NBA and led a team by himself to the NBA finals.

He is better than Penny from any conceivable argument you can come up with. Just enjoy the past and view things objectively for once.

Penny vs Hill is a better argument.

 

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Athleticism of today >>>>>>>>>>> Athleticism of the 90s

Barkley was a 6' 6" PF and he dominated. What do you think Bron and Anthony Davis would have done?
Reggie Miller was 185 soaking wet and couldn't dribble and he was making all-nba teams. Durant is 7 feet, better shooter, better finisher and can handle the rock. You think he would have struggled with hand checking? or Harden for that matter?

Basketball is the only sport where fans consistently hold these delusions that the players of today would get worked by previous eras despite being bigger, faster and stronger. You don't hear that nonsense in football.

so you think the only reason CHuck B dominated was due to his athleticism. L O L.

Do you realize how strong he was? i'm not talking about how strong he looked(LEBRON). but how strong he actually was?

This nucca chuck was backing down Giants. lebron aint doing that. lebron can back down durant and skinny AD perhaps. but i dont see lebron backing down Pekovic. its not going to happen. and he doesnt like to play with is back to the basket. he's said that himself.
do you know how Cold CHuck Beezy was in the post? the dude had moves for days down low. moreso then LBJ or AD.

AD and LBJ are face up big guys more or less. non of them are POWER forwards. even though they have the body types of POWER forwards. with their size/length.

athleticism alone is not enough. if that were the case James "flight" White would be killing in the nba. that fool was jumping from the free throw line doing windmills. but where is he today?

 

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Because a pre prime LeBron was already the best player in the NBA and led a team by himself to the NBA finals.

He is better than Penny from any conceivable argument you can come up with. Just enjoy the past and view things objectively for once.

Penny vs Hill is a better argument.

of course penny vs hill is a better argument because they are closer in size. that wasnt the point. the point of the thread was the point out the facts. lebron is not the first star player to be a DO all guy while throwing up the numbers.

thats what ESPN wants you to believe.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Tracy McGrady said it best when they asked him the Jordan vs Lebron question??

"LeBron is playing against boys..Mike played against grown men"


I mean, yeah...athleticism is through the roof right now


But like I said before, when it comes to IQ/Fundamentals, the current generation is green bananas

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Tracy McGrady said it best when they asked him the Jordan vs Lebron question??

"LeBron is playing against boys..Mike played against grown men"


I mean, yeah...athleticism is through the roof right now


But like I said before, when it comes to IQ/Fundamentals, the current generation is green bananas

So no further elaboration. Just hyperbole and rhetoric from a guy who's been washed up since maybe 2007?