Serious Question...What makes (Nasty) Nas the G.O.A.T?

[x2y]

Nas is the G.O.A.T. whats to debate

 

[W.I.Z.E.]

I think it all boils down to what your criteria is.

For me, lyrics, flow, delivery, subject matter, consistency, stage ability and impact on the game are part of mine.

Nas in the top 3 in all except stage ability.

Ironically, during the Nastradamus years, Nas' consistency was questioned but right now if I look at body of work...I put Nas' above Jay and he's b/w Distant Relatives and LIG he's still spittin ill.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

That response
How predictable....cacs gon cac

saying cac over and over doesn't offend me breh I call myself and white people cac's all the time. shyt is a funny term to me

welcome to my ignore list for being unfunny tho

 

[We Major]

*sits back and waits for @Ziggiy to come through with another Post of The Year contender*

 

[Bed$tuy]

I can also add that he grew up in a legendary place (qb) with a great legacy, he was there since the cassette tape era era and still there, he made featurings with almost all the great rapper and challenged his skills with them. He had enough versatility to make songs with Keri Hilson, then Killa Priest, then Blitz, then Joss Stone, Damian Marley to Korn, to Beastie and on and on...

The ton of his voice on the mic places him above the rest kinda like when Michael was singing with his brothers, you clearly see the difference, he just sound nice even with simple rhymes
He also have a style of rap that became unique, from multisyllable to rap with words effortless that don't even rhyme most of the time
He's just unpredictable with his rhymes, he's litteraly one of the few cats where I expect new references in each verse. Like when he comes with phrases like

"Begin like a violin, end like Leviathan"

"I’m as live as hive full of predators
Twenty thousands different species of bees
Some half poisonous sting, some just pollinating their leafs
It's just like rap, some will buzz some will attack, compromising their own life in fact"

"She Queen of Nzinga
Winnie Mandela, Ida B. Wells
So why can't you tell? Why can't you tell?"

"Private planes landed out in Teterboro, weed I twirl
Once even gave me a phobia
That I be in a spot trapped like Madame Zenobia's
With this kid eyein' my Rolly, y'all"

I'm like where does he comes with that

Everything about him his legendary, from the way he came out into the game, from the way he got produced by the best with their best beats, to him being mentored by Large Pro which was mentored by Paul C, and signed on a legendary label.

Oh and one of the most important thing, he NEVER lost touch with the streets, no matter what even on LIG he kept telling ghetto stories, talking about legendary street cats from his hood, and not just referencing popular figures or fictional characters, I still feel the street era in his slang and rap, thing that Jay lost a long time ago, kinda like Eminem lost that I don't give a fukk attitude and trashy humour that we all used to like. Nas never lost his street flava. And I can relate more because the thing that get me the most with him, it's his ability to take us back to his memory lane, and greater days, Wheres' the love or Back When are the best example of that.

excellent post

 

[The_Third_Man]

Amazing skills
unmatched catalogue
Huge Impact
longevity
Creativity
Depth
Versatility

 

[Foxmulder]

Cracka fck up..

nikka said..Hov would rap bout gettin BBC in his dookie hole for the guap

In so many words u basically said the nikka have no dignity

Which is understandable seein as to how ur a filthy no good cracka ass cracka who's blue blood boils when u see the epitome of black excellence being shoved in ya face

 

[ISO]

IMO Nas gets more hate than Jay on here, Nas' names literally switches to lost on this forum. You have users like Blacklash and Piff Gawd who go around writing Gnosse lost on every thread. Users like intellectual Reciprocol that say Illmatic is a lyrical fraud.

I think Nas is the GOAT for several reasons, and Im a Jay and Nas stan.

Illmatic is widely regarded as the GOAT album
Nas has the most classics (Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic, Life is Good)
The best discography (from Illmatic to Life is Good who has a better discography? Only Nastradamus was bad, Street Disciple forgettable)
Nas is GOAT on features (Eye for an Eye, Verbal Intercourse)
Nas has one of the GOAT debut verses on Live at the BBQ (When I was 12 I went to hell for snuffing Jesus)
Nas has GOAT level influence (look at J.Cole making "Let Nas Down", Elzhi making Elmatic, Lupe stanning It Was Written, Game saying he was a Compton nikka with a NY State of Mind, look at how Jay and Pac played Illmatic religiously)
GOAT songs that will forever go down in history (NY State of Mind, I Gave you Power)
GOAT diss song (Ether)
Great longevity (almost 20 years from his debut and still dropping hot verses unlike others)
Great versatility (being able to talk gangsta, political and even make a party track although its not his forte)

 

[up in here]

It's more difficult for Nas than Jay to make a hit single. I don't see how anyone could disagree with that

I don't disagree, I just don't care about hit songs. A lot of popular songs is trash to me.

 

[vaudevillevillain]

I don't disagree, I just don't care about hit songs. A lot of popular songs is trash to me.

the way i see it, most songs are hits for a reason

 

[up in here]

the way i see it, most songs are hits for a reason

and???

again, i dont disagree. i just dont care for hit songs. i dont use radio/charts as the barometer for my personal tastes. many of my all time favorite songs in any genre were never released as singles.

 

[vaudevillevillain]

and???

again, i dont disagree. i just dont care for hit songs. i dont use radio/charts as the barometer for my personal tastes. many of my all time favorite songs in any genre were never released as singles.

if you don't care for hit songs you do disagree, you not making any sense right now

there's a difference between being able to make hit singles and choosing not to, and not being able to make hit singles. that's all i'm saying. that doesn't mean my favorite songs are hit singles. you get me??

 

[up in here]

if you don't care for hit songs you do disagree, you not making any sense right now

there's a difference between being able to make hit singles and choosing not to, and not being able to make hit singles. that's all i'm saying. that doesn't mean my favorite songs are hit singles. you get me??

how am i not making sense? you said jay is better at making hit songs. i agreed. you said most songs are hits for a reason. again i agreed, there are many reasons why some songs are hits and others are not. i just dont really see what hit songs have to do with personal preference for one artist or another

 

[feelosofer]

nothing. He's not.

Mt Rushmore of rap = Pac, Jay, 3000, Cube

I like Andre 3k alot but

 

[vaudevillevillain]

how am i not making sense? you said jay is better at making hit songs. i agreed. you said most songs are hits for a reason. again i agreed, there are many reasons why some songs are hits and others are not. i just dont really see what hit songs have to do with personal preference for one artist or another

Jay is better than Nas, let's just leave it at that