Seriously, Eminem fukked up by not signing Freddie Gibbs. Instead he went for the likes of yelawolf

[SubLyminalz]

Wait and guys like Ross aren't gangster rappers right? Even Kendrick to an extent is explicit in his content (I'm not saying he's a gangster rapper) the delivery and candescence certainly wouldn't be considered that of a rapper typical of this era. But this era isn't as bytch made as you posters think it is. The fact is you have the machine behind you and your appeal will grow, that's just the way it is. Gibbs just didn't sell out because he kept it OG, you could've stuck him in some skinny jeans and sold him as a weed head but he seems like the type of guy to have wanted complete creative control.

ross has a machine behind him with co signs from 2 of the biggest moduels in the history of hip hop, has one of the hottest labels in the game right now and is all over the radio, clubs, and tv, you can't compare ross to Gibbs situation.

if jeezy didn't use gibbs as his personal flunkie and use him to diss every nikka that jeezy and cte had beef with then gibbs would be in a better situation right now so he has nobody to blame but himself, jeezy used and abused that nikka gibbs like a scored hooker.

gibbs isn't getting those type of co signs that the nikkas u named are getting.

 

[Harry B]

I fukks with Gibbs but I can't claim that he's better than Crooked I, Joe Buddens, Obie Trice, Royce or 50 (cats signed or formerly signed to Em) or anyone in G-unit in their prime. He's shown moments or a song or two but not really delivered over time or in the actual major league as those nikkas did.

 

[bordeaux]

he doesn't really fit imo. shady projects have some sh!t production too. so yea, he makes better music than them now.

 

[SubLyminalz]

I fukks with Gibbs but I can't claim that he's better than Crooked I, Joe Buddens, Obie Trice, Royce or 50 (cats signed or formerly signed to Em) or anyone in G-unit in their prime. He's shown moments or a song or two but not really delivered over time or in the actual major league as those nikkas did.

crooked I delivered In the major league

he has shown moments on a song or 2

he has released one of the best projects of the year 2 times in a row (bfk and esgn) yet he is only good on a few verses

 

[Still Benefited]

Freddie Gibbs> all these nikkas u mentioned.
Yes he would murk Jay too. Gangsta Gibbs

better than Jay,Crooked,Joe? shoulda just told me you was a stan who cant be reasoned with two post ago

 

[Harry B]

crooked I delivered In the major league

he has shown moments on a song or 2

he has released one of the best projects of the year 2 times in a row (bfk and esgn) yet he is only good on a few verses

Exclude Crooked I.
However "one of the best project of the year 2 ties in a row"? Are we talking about Str8 Killa and Baby Face killa? Or CDIH and BFK? In any event.. that might be your opinion and even though I fukks with duke, I would put neither in top 10 of their respective year. CDIH might be a honorable mention.

The point about major league is that when you wanna compete with dudes and actually deliver an album in which you are pressured to move some records. Then Freddie Gibbs went out and dropped his weakest project thus far; ESGN.

 

[CELL]

ross has a machine behind him with co signs from 2 of the biggest moduels in the history of hip hop, has one of the hottest labels in the game right now and is all over the radio, clubs, and tv, you can't compare ross to Gibbs situation.

if jeezy didn't use gibbs as his personal flunkie and use him to diss every nikka that jeezy and cte had beef with then gibbs would be in a better situation right now so he has nobody to blame but himself, jeezy used and abused that nikka gibbs like a scored hooker.

gibbs isn't getting those type of co signs that the nikkas u named are getting.

Well Gibbs was signed in 2006 by Interscope meaning he was in at the right time to carve the lane out for himself with a clean slate that wasn't tarnished by CTE. I don't see why I can't compare the two? Of course I can compare Ross to Gibbs because Ross wasn't just handed those situations on a plate. Everything from the co signs and the labels being behind him just meant he played his hand nicely and won big. The MMG imprint is a testimony to the success Ross has gained as a GANGSTER rapper. Like I said if Gibbs wasn't so naive back then he could've been marketed differently and sold on a mainstream level but instead he's cut too many of his relationships to be given that co sign.

Interscope is the machine. Slaughterhouse have never made good enough music as a group to organically grow and sell records, they're just a good freestyle group. Yelawolf is a terrible artist. If Game went plat on Interscope, Gibbs would've gone plat on interscope.

Gibbs on a label like MMG would've been the spark needed to sell him in THIS era and they would have done, I have no doubt in my mind about that but of course he fukked that up for himself by standing by Jeezy in the wrong decade. Gibbs on MMG beats would be something reminiscent to DMX in clubs

 

[Beerus]

better than Jay,Crooked,Joe? shoulda just told me you was a stan who cant be reasoned with two post ago

nikka gibbs would make crooked eye cry, jay it's debatable, joe HELL YEAH he would!

 

[SubLyminalz]

Exclude Crooked I.
However "one of the best project of the year 2 ties in a row"? Are we talking about Str8 Killa and Baby Face killa? Or CDIH and BFK? In any event.. that might be your opinion and even though I fukks with duke, I would put neither in top 10 of their respective year. CDIH might be a honorable mention.

The point about major league is that when you wanna compete with dudes and actually deliver an album in which you are pressured to move some records. Then Freddie Gibbs went out and dropped his weakest project thus far; ESGN.

I clearly mentioned the albums In my original post so idk where the rest of them came from.

and I seen quite a few people name esgn and bfk as top projects the years that they dropped.

im pretty sure gibbs learned his lesson from the jeezy situation.

 

[Beerus]

Well Gibbs was signed in 2006 by Interscope meaning he was in at the right time to carve the lane out for himself with a clean slate that wasn't tarnished by CTE. I don't see why I can't compare the two? Of course I can compare Ross to Gibbs because Ross wasn't just handed those situations on a plate. Everything from the co signs and the labels being behind him just meant he played his hand nicely and won big. The MMG imprint is a testimony to the success Ross has gained as a GANGSTER rapper. Like I said if Gibbs wasn't so naive back then he could've been marketed differently and sold on a mainstream level but instead he's cut too many of his relationships to be given that co sign.

Interscope is the machine. Slaughterhouse have never made good enough music as a group to organically grow and sell records, they're just a good freestyle group. Yelawolf is a terrible artist. If Game went plat on Interscope, Gibbs would've gone plat on interscope.

Gibbs on a label like MMG would've been the spark needed to sell him in THIS era and they would have done, I have no doubt in my mind about that but of course he fukked that up for himself by standing by Jeezy in the wrong decade. Gibbs on MMG beats would be something reminiscent to DMX in clubs

yeah Gibbs didn't like ross from the get go lol even before jeezy.

I threw my tape out on the streets and watched my tape lift off
With out a verse from Weezy, Kanye or the fake Rick Ross

 

[Harry B]

I clearly mentioned the albums In my original post so idk where the rest of them came from.

and I seen quite a few people name esgn and bfk as top projects the years that they dropped.

im pretty sure gibbs learned his lesson from the jeezy situation.

I missed that..

Alright then, just to see If I might be out of tune with the hiphop community have you got any list in which BFK or ESGN is top 20 album of year?
I checked about 10 lists and couldn't find any .

There's a lot of hiphop shyt dropping, but I can't knock anyone for ranking them high most of these ranked albums are 4 mics including Gibbs. BFK was however a strong mixtape, his actual album ESGN... meh not so much.




edit: Some (offbrand) site called hiphopisread ranked cdih and BFK top 10, so yeah perhaps there are some voices out there.

 

[CELL]

yeah Gibbs didn't like ross from the get go lol even before jeezy.

He's just too real for the fakeness and false bullshyt of the mainstream it's simple. His appeal however should NEVER be questioned, had he sold out he'd be in millions. This is why he gets my co sign consistently

Sidenote: That str8 Killa mixtape is just

 

[SubLyminalz]

Well Gibbs was signed in 2006 by Interscope meaning he was in at the right time to carve the lane out for himself with a clean slate that wasn't shed by CTE. I don't see why I can't compare the two? Of course I can compare Ross to Gibbs because Ross wasn't just handed those situations on a plate. Everything from the co signs and the labels being behind him just meant he played his hand nicely and won big. The MMG imprint is a testimony to the success Ross has gained as a GANGSTER rapper. Like I said if Gibbs wasn't so naive back then he could've been marketed differently and sold on a mainstream level but instead he's cut too many of his relationships to be given that co sign.

Interscope is the machine. Slaughterhouse have never made good enough music as a group to organically grow and sell records, they're just a good freestyle group. Yelawolf is a terrible artist. If Game went plat on Interscope, Gibbs would've gone plat on interscope.

Gibbs on a label like MMG would've been the spark needed to sell him in THIS era and they would have done, I have no doubt in my mind about that but of course he fukked that up for himself by standing by Jeezy in the wrong decade. Gibbs on MMG beats would be something reminiscent to DMX in clubs

thats what i was saying gibbs on mmg would have been can you imagine him and meek on a song together on one of those hc hammer type beats

ross was always a business minded nikka which is why he is in the position he is in now, he studied the game from his peers and learned how to market himself, yea def jam played there part in his success but during the beef with fif is really when he started to be on his boss shyt, he had his own production team which shot his videos and started the whole vlog wave, gibbs is just a street nikka turned rapper who chose to be in the wrong situation, he choose street cred over being in a better situation with nikkas who knew what they were doing.

i agree with pretty much everything else you said.

 

[SubLyminalz]

I missed that..

Alright then, just to see If I might be out of tune with the hiphop community have you got any website in which BFK or ESGN is top 20 album of year?
I checked about 10 lists and couldn't find any .

There's a lot of hiphop shyt dropping, but I can't knock anyone for ranking them high most of these ranked albums are 4 mics including Gibbs.


edit: Some (offbrand) site called hiphopisread ranked cdih top 10, so yeah perhaps there are some voices out there.

Im talking about coli list now any list from hipster cac oriented magazines and websites.

bfk got very good reviews from the public, esgn not so much but I cant blame them because the rest of those cats were trash.

 

[Harry B]

As far as Jeezy and him goes, I don't know what lesson there was to learn.
He was signed to an indie label, getting the indie treatment (+ shine). I don't even know what he was expecting or what the beef is about.
In my non-A&R ass opinion he should've grinder alone, I couldn't see how he could gain much by fukking with Jeezy. Rich Homie Quan, YG, 2 Chainz and those type of dudes I can see gaining something from fukking with Jeezy. Freddie Gibbs would do better with someone like Eminem who has a quite large fraction of his fan base that only fiend for those bars and that flow or flat out doing it alone.