seriously: how do jehovahxwitnesses support themselves?

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

that franz video was actually a good video on the subject. it gets to the point in regards to how the organization thinks about things. you shouldn't have to go through a small governing body to get information about God. it's one thing if you do, but to say that's the only way is ridiculous. i mean, i understand in a way why you'd do that (to make sure the information is uniform and has very little variation to prevent mix up), but i think life itself is diverse. how could you and why would you say that people can only get their information, revelations and personal idea on matters pertaining to God from someone else's interpretations?

it makes the idea of God very basic and small. and, it also undermines the reasoning abilities of those who strive to get that connection, making them seem unfit if they believe something different. therefore, it's very much like you have to accept what's given to you rather than come to your own conclusions. that's not to say that everyone comes to the best of conclusions about how to deal with things or that everyone has a optimal idea of God. but, i'd say that dealing with them limits your scope and range of what you can do. i just don't believe in limitations nor do i believe one group has an answer and just because i think different doesn't make me a bad person or undeserving of attention and direction from God. it doesn't mean that i'm not connected to him in any way nor does it mean that i'll be destroyed or viewed unfavorably, just because i didn't go along with your organization...

 

[rapbeats]

Ex-Elder Larry and the disappearing secret Elder book - YouTube

FRANZ video below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c6I0fjiYNU&feature

i had to quote the video to make it easier on you. read the entire scripture and watch that video again. this is what Franz was talking about. watch it at the 1:55 mark

..”I could see that they[JW’s] were not really governed by the Spirit of JESUS CHRIST, but Everything was based on Organizational Policy and Tradition.”

If you’re a follower or Christ. Your church has to be lead by the Spirit of Jesus Christ. If it is not then it is therefore INCORRECT. No matter how well intended you may be with your use of Organizational Policy and Tradition.”

When policy and tradition supersede CHRIST. Houston we have a problem. And that’s in any church. I don’t care if its called so and so’s Baptist or so and so’s Pentecostal. Or so and so’s church of god in Christ. The name means nothing. Unless its ran properly from within.
Let me biblically prove to you what franz just said is correct. Remember this aint me, or franz making these rules. This is God’s word. The same word we are all supposed to be reading.

Clean and Unclean
Matthew 15:1-20

1Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2“Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!”

3Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’a and ‘Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.’b 5But you say that if a man says to his father or mother, ‘Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is a gift devoted to God,’ 6he is not to ‘honor his fatherc’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:

8“‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
9They worship me in vain;
their teachings are but rules taught by men.’d”
10Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen and understand. 11What goes into a man’s mouth does not make him ‘unclean,’ but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him ‘unclean.’”

12Then the disciples came to him and asked, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?”

13He replied, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14Leave them; they are blind guides.e If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”

15Peter said, “Explain the parable to us.”

16“Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them. 17“Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these make a man ‘unclean.’ 19For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20These are what make a man ‘unclean’; but eating with unwashed hands does not make him ‘unclean.’”

 

[Marciano]

My great aunt was a JW & my moms is one. I don't see it as a cult, I see it as a religion that really tries to follow what the Bible says. They're not like other Christians who party hard Saturday night, then wanna go to church on Sunday & act like it's all good. Or with certain churches that have a real loose dress code where the women in there be wearing shyt they'd rock to the club. JW's are always properly dressed for their meetings.

The part about their door to door work, they got that from Matthew 24:14 where they are instructed to preach the word in all the nations. They feel by going door to door, that's their way of preaching.

As far as people dying & not going to heaven. The bible states that Adam was created from dust & when he died, he returned to dust. There is no mention in the bible, besides Jesus' going to heaven after his resurrection, of a human dying & going to heaven. When Jesus resurrected Lazarus, he said that Lazarus was "sleeping" and He was going to "awake" him. No mention of Lazarus going to heaven. The dead enter a state of sleep or unconsciousness, plus their body returns to dust like Adam. They can only be awakened by God himself or Jesus - thus the resurrection. Ecclesiastes 9:5

Think about it, what would be the point of God even creating the Earth with humans if the purpose was to just live on here then die & go to heaven? God's purpose, when he created Adam & Eve, was for humans to live forever by "being fruitful & fill the Earth." But when they disobeyed, sin entered & it's ultimately punishable with death.

As far as the translation goes between bibles of JWs & other religions, they are a religion that constantly refers to God by his name. Psalms 83:18. Most bibles stated God's name as Jehovah, but a lot of CHURCHES removed it.

I'm not baptized, never have been nor am I a religious type of dude - more so spiritual. Every religious organizations has their flaws, that's why I choose to do my own thing. I do, however, pray on a daily basis & I know for a fact that there is a God out there. No man can tell me different.

 

[Real Talk of NY]

Because I have read the bible. And the things that they do set them apart.

Just the refusal to celebrate holidays, no blood transfusions, door to door preaching....just off the top, all things a lot of other "Christians" don't do that the Bible clearly states.

Seventh Day Adventists follow the bible more closely than JW.

 

[iMajor]

If anyone in their heart believe Jesus Christ is their Lord and Savior they are good with me. Not everyone has it right but we are all trying to work towards it. I know their doctrine isn't that but if there is any that do believe that... Good stuff

 

[rapbeats]

If anyone in their heart believe Jesus Christ is their Lord and Savior they are good with me. Not everyone has it right but we are all trying to work towards it. I know their doctrine isn't that but if there is any that do believe that... Good stuff

bruh they intentionally changed bible verses to lineup with their way of thinking. not to translate it out of one language to another. there's a difference. Jesus specifically states DO NOT ADD NOR TAKE AWAY from the word. he doesnt need your help. beyond translating stuff from language to language and looking for the best understanding based on the context.

 

[iMajor]

bruh they intentionally changed bible verses to lineup with their way of thinking. not to translate it out of one language to another. there's a difference. Jesus specifically states DO NOT ADD NOR TAKE AWAY from the word. he doesnt need your help. beyond translating stuff from language to language and looking for the best understanding based on the context.

I understand all that but I said if they believe in their heart Jesus Christ is their Lord and savior. They good peeps.

 

[rapbeats]

Seventh Day Adventists follow the bible more closely than JW.

and you see there. here in lies the problem. people playing the "i'm the greatest chrisian." no, I"m the greatest christian."

7day ads dont follow the bible at all. you know why? because they are so caught up in trying to follow some of the law they forget that Jesus said if you are still stuck trying to follow the low instead of following Jesus' gift of salvation. then you must follow every law to the letter. NO one can do that. therefore if you're not following all of them you're not following any of them. thats why he says to leave it alone. and lead that holy spirit guide you.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

I understand all that but I said if they believe in their heart Jesus Christ is their Lord and savior. They good peeps.

SO YOU CAN CHANGE THE BIBLE TO SAY ANYTHING?

 

[iMajor]

SO YOU CAN CHANGE THE BIBLE TO SAY ANYTHING?

no. I believe they are a cult same with Mormons but as I said not everyone has it exactly right and we are all trying to gain knowledge and understand. And what I've been saying along is what really matters at the end.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

Nutty sect explains masturbation to deaf people - in a Video!

A LOT OF HELPFUL INFORMATION IN THAT THREAD FROM PEOPLE WHO USED TO BE IN THE JW KLIQ AND GOT EXCOMMUNICATED AND SHUNNED, BROTHERS!

 

[duck]

even tho they creepy, boring, dull and soulless people they work jobs like everybody else breh



my sister started dating a jehovah witness nerd nikka while she was at tuskegee and got brainwashed into that shyt almost overnight

now 7 years later they married and she just had his kid

damn them and their cult, my sister went from being a cool ass bytch to being a bible thumping weirdo who turns every conversation into some Jesus shyt and brings about 10 copies of Watchtower with her everytime she visits

all thats off topic i guess, but fukk jehovah witnesses

think on the bright side. you will save some money now from not buying her anymore christmas or birthday presents

 

[rapbeats]

I understand all that but I said if they believe in their heart Jesus Christ is their Lord and savior. They good peeps.

and i'm saying you are correct. but if you believe hat JC is your Lord....stop right there. he has control over your life. dont you think he's telling them to either completely change JW's processes and put the real bible back in there. OR to leave JW all together? i mean thats what having the HOLY SPIRIT in you is all about. you are supposed to have more of a discerning spirit then someone who isnt saved and wasnt given the gift of the spirit. now granted some folks regardless of their religious affiliation holy spirit or not. are given an ability to discern things rather quickly then others. some people can smell a rat with no rats around YET. but between those people and you having the holy spirit. you should be on your way out of the JW's or on your way up to the headquarters to change it completely. and if you go up to HQ and they tell you NO. its their way or the highway. hit the road.

 

[fendi_mane]

As someone who was forced to go when I was younger, no church/religious organization has a bigger group of loose hoes than JW

I hate to be jerk but this is the truth. once in their circle, p*ssy is plentiful witbout trying.

 

[Canada Goose]

I wonder why JW couples still bother to have kids?

Its the hardest religion to be in (MANY rules), why not wait until the "new world" to have kids.

Growing up in this world is tougher than ever, its extra hard if you're in that religion, their social standard is

Its easier for the older heads but if you're a younger dude (IDK about the females) then its rough.

If most people outside your congregation have a negative opinion about you over something you can't really control, then odds are people in the congregation will too and they will put you on real life ignore...