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2Pac is THE GOAT...

If he is not your favourite rapper, then guess what, your favourite rapper is just that, YOUR favourite rapper...

At this point the only arguments I am willing to consider are from...
1) Eminem fans...I only like 2 Eminem songs..."Loose Yourself" and "Who I am"...But I have to be objective and say that dude sold records, but not only that, he is respected by almost all the other people who sold records, and everybody else in between...

Eminem is possibly the Ultimate GOAT...That's based on record sales and respect from other people who are professional rappers...

2) Jay Z fans...Dude has transcended hip hop...Name a rapper who isn't slurping on Jigga's Camel sized nuts...? Again, record sales and respect from other professional rappers is all I need to formulate an opinion...
The crazy thing is, I personally believe that without his financial success, Jay Z's catalogue is pretty weak...I personally file Jay Z in the same lane as Ja Rule, Nelly, and other rappers who drop big singles, but I have NEVER been interested in listening to their catalogues...I have tried once, and found myself skipping to straight to the hits and singles...

However, the hip hop community respects his catalogue, and it shows in his album sales, and the respect other professional rappers show him...So, my feelings are just that, feelings...

Any other name you want to mention just DOES NOT belong...

Yes, Nas does NOT belong...He has the respect of other professional rappers, but what about the albums...?

Think about it, 2Pac didn't make poppy singles and gimmicky "Lauryn Hill stimulus package" type of singles...Dude was as hardcore as you could get in the mainstream, and he still outsold Nas by far...

So, it's not point disrespecting my point about albums sales by bringing Vanila Ice and Mc Hammer in the equation...

2Pac was hardcore and he beat Vanilla Ice and Mc Hammer, but Nas couldn't...So, the album sales angle is valid...
 

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Stopped readin when you mentioned a cac. Pac is the goat em ain't in top 10 20. People scared to alienate that cac fanbase.
 
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Stopped readin when you mentioned a cac. Pac is the goat em ain't in top 10 20. People scared to alienate that cac fanbase.
Can you ignore the fact that dude sold a boat load of records...Can you ignore the fact that all other rappers that are really doing it for the craft and are not just "I am a hustler who raps" rappers, actually acknowledge and respect his talent...?

Of course you can ignore that if you so wish, but it doesn't make sense to...
 

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Can you ignore the fact that dude sold a boat load of records...Can you ignore the fact that all other rappers that are really doing it for the craft and are not just "I am a hustler who raps" rappers, actually acknowledge and respect his talent...?

Of course you can ignore that if you so wish, but it doesn't make sense to...
Yes. Record sales mean nothing. Em shytted on all my peoples female relatives and no-one said shyt, why would these p*ssy rappers discredit his skills?
 
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Yes. Record sales mean nothing. Em shytted on all my peoples female relatives and no-one said shyt, why would these p*ssy rappers discredit his skills?
Still, even if Lionel Messi said "all blacks can eat a fat penis" it would not take away from his position as an elite footballer...The facts are the facts...
 

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Still, even if Lionel Messi said "all blacks can eat a fat penis" it would not take away from his position as an elite footballer...The facts are the facts...
That doesn't take away his skill,but if people won't call him out on that even, doesn't that call into question there objectivity when relating to anything em related? I am in no way attempting to hate on em but to put dude in the same class as Pac is reaching imo
 
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